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Old 17th April 2008, 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ungarstu132 View Post
thanx for your response. I agree when you bet a little more with 3 limpers, but i find that sticking to the standard raise works perfectly for me....

if possible, for learning purposes can you post a hand history, where you used the exact standard raise and somthing went wrong?

i think it would be very beneficiary to examine it.....

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This is going to be a very hard because, like I said, I don't use the standard raise. And I haven't used it for a very long time. If anything, it would be a coincidence where I happened to bet 3xBB as the first in the pot -- which is within my range but not what I am talking about -- so it doesn't really apply. I'm almost never using the standard raise if other people are in the pot unless I am looking to build a large pot. And building a large pot is exactly what goes wrong with it.

Naturally, I play very bad players online. This is because I stick to the micro limits online... so a larger raise is needed to get attention. And when I play live, $2/$4, $1/$2, or smaller... it's similar to what I said above... a standard raise is just not going to get anyone out. I've seen someone raise $20 in a $1/$2 game (as the 2nd person in the pot) and still get 3 callers. I wouldn't have a hand history for those hands, of course.

The lowest limits warp your good play in a lot of respects. I do things in these games that would not be profitable in bigger games. Over-betting is one of those things... because they call too much and abusing that is fine. If I have AA and know the other guy will call 20xBB from his 60xBB stack, pre-flop... then I would be insane to bet 3xBB. I am looking to bet as much as I can expect to get a call for. Live, I have had a person call a $78 raise (in $1/$2NL) with 10-7 offsuit. He had raised to $20, and I made it $98 to go. And he went ahead and called anyway. Against those players... the standard raise is just too small.

Anyway... if I happen to play a hand and use the standard raise, I'll post the hand history. But with the people I typically sit with... I don't mind confessing to huge variance in my pre-flop betting and often over-betting the value of a hand when I expect a call.
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