There has been so many times when I have folded the winning hand. 80% of the time I fold if people start betting crazy before the flop 20% of the time I will stay in if they bet reasonablily and only if I see the flop and know my hand is a possible winner. I have taught myself how to read people even on-line poker, if they bet on the turn and I got my hand on the flop thats when I take them in and take them down. But it doesn't always go that way sometimes it bites me in the bum and they have trapped me. Thats why I love poker the most is because its unpredictable and loads of fun