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Old 16th July 2008, 08:27 PM
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Believe me, I get that. Folding on the river there is definitely a -EV situation. Like I said, I don't even like the fold play at all myself. I was absolutely sick.

My issue though is that I don't think he automatically calls a shove. So a shove actually creates no additional value for me. I needed a number that he is locked into calling and at the same time leave me some room in case I'm not good. I know that sounds dumb, but it really makes more sense then a shove in my eyes.

If he didn't hit the river and he was already afraid of me having a better hand, he's definitely going to fold. He knew there was no way I would push into him without a big hand. So, as far as I'm concerned a shove was either get called and lose or gain no extra money.


I think overall this is just a prime example of how things can play out at a poker table and that there are no absolutes. Just because something is "normally" strategically correct, doesn't make it ALWAYS correct.
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