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Old 17th July 2008, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by powrdragn View Post
And as it turns out, he showed a QsTs.
I'm sorry, but I can not put a tight player on that hand. Even though it was the right lay down, and given all the before hand playing, I would have put him on Qs 10s. If he is playing those hands, then he really isn't a tight player. He is a semi-tight player, or not very loose player. Hands like Q 10 have really scary options on the flop.

I say this, because someone could EASILY beat you. Such as (group 1) A Q, K Q, Q J, A 10, K 10, (group 2) AA, KK, QQ, JJ, 10 10. If they have any of the hands of from group 1, then you have one live card that you need to catch. If they have a group two hand, you are really behind and NEED to catch cards.

Knowing this, tight players won't usually play these king of hands just for that reason. Even if they were suited, and had position, you always run the risk of running into a bigger hand, bigger kicker, or being out flopped. You have to have the right flop with Q 10 (suited or not) in order to feel comfortable with your hand. If you paired just one of your cards, you are always thinking to yourself if you are out kicked. And most of the time, you are.

But like I said before, since you said he was a tight player, I would have put him on A 10, AA, KK, or 44. And given that last action by him (looking you in the eye before the all-in), I would have called him. If he had me beat, show him how far behind he was on the flop, and make him re-decide if his actions were right.

Now, players who are not so tight, or not so loose (just normal players) would play these hands in position. He was in the CO, and wanted to see if the flop connected with his hand.

Him calling on the flop and turn was a bad part by him. He did have top pair, but with a not so good kicker. Your bet should have told him he was behind. And when you bet again on the turn, he had to call because he hit trips. Again, he was scared of behind out kicked (why tight players don't play this hand). But it was just a lucky river card for him to suck out on you.

So basically, it was a mix of him making a gutsy call, being perceived as a tight player, and calling all the way down till the river to get lucky that won him the pot. And in that hand alone, you lost all your profits and was down to your starting stack with huge stacks around you. And, you just gave a tight player a LOAD of chips, which is VERY dangerous. I would have bet pot on the turn and/or the flop instead of less than the pot. You want to go all in before the river because you are pot committed. And, if you went all-in/bet pot sooner than the river, he might have laid down the hand and you would have won the pot right there.
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