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Old 12th August 2008, 06:24 AM
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While I respect this opinion and understand how frustrating and difficult it can be to play online with zero or an extremely small bankroll, perhaps there is a better place to vent this frustration than in the Beginner's section of the forums.

I don't think anyone is going to lie to the new players and say it's easy to be a profitable player. It's not easy at all. It takes a lot of hard work, study, discipline, and practice to show a solid profit playing poker. And while you're learning, you need to not just be better than the other people but good enough, compared to them, to beat the rake as well.

In a recent short session on PokerStars, which doesn't offer rakeback, I was up 21BB (big bets) on the end. During this session I paid 2.3BB in rake. In the entire session, the rake was greater then 10% of my profits. Since this session was only 63 hands long... I was paying 0.37c a hand (this was 5/10c Limit) just to play. It may not seem like a lot... but you've got to beat that amount to stay ahead.

This is hard... it's much harder than people give it credit for when they start out. You can't just get lucky your fair share of the time. Getting lucky your fair share of the time will still leave you down 0.37c per hand (in this case). You need to know how to exploit the people when you have the best of it and get away from it when you have the worst.

Anyway, I'm rambling again, it's discouraging enough to be a new player. Posting a thread like this just piles on more negative feelings and complicates things. Believe me, we all have these days. But I don't go around complaining about them to people who are already having a hard time beating the game and might think of me as a player who should be able to beat the game easily (nothing is easy but everyone wants to think that).
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