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Old 3rd October 2008, 06:10 AM
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You dont understand. you have to make the read. Fold points are there for a reason. To make you fear the sniper. You didn't get all those points for nothing. Soon as theres fear theres uncertainty.
when you watch some 1 play for awhile you get a read on them. Well I watched him. You know what else he watched me and I had 12 fold points. I didn't say I don't bluff. I said I don't do it stupidly. All you have to do is look. it's right there in front of you. How can you not see it? When you make the right read and then add your fold points in you SCARE ppl. Why because there scared of snipers.

Table #10752477 - Celestial Spirit
Starting Hand #535835893
Start time of hand: 03 Oct 2008 05:41:19
Last Hand #535835606
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: RING
Money Type: REAL MONEY
Blinds are now $0.05/$0.10
Button is at seat 1
Seat 1: auricus - $12.41
Seat 2: NOCKIO - $11.19
Seat 3: SamSufy - $4.55
Seat 4: waylay - $10.17
Seat 6: 4dtreboles - $16.62
Seat 7: Tommy168 - $30
Seat 8: DiogeneD - $8
Seat 10: 7MARCUS7 - $4.56
Moving Button to seat 2
SamSufy posts small blind ($0.05)
waylay posts big blind ($0.10)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
waylay winks.
Dealing [Th Js] to waylay
4dtreboles folds
Tommy168 raises to $0.40
DiogeneD folds
7MARCUS7 folds
auricus folds
NOCKIO folds
SamSufy calls $0.40
waylay calls $0.40
Dealing Flop [6d 8c Qh]
SamSufy checks
waylay checks
Tommy168 bets $0.80
SamSufy folds
waylay calls $0.80
Dealing Turn [3c]
waylay bets $0.80
Tommy168 calls $0.80
Dealing River [Kh]
Player [SamSufy] rebuys $5.65
waylay bets $4.40
Tommy168 folds
Taking Rake of $0.44 from pot 1
waylay shows [Th Js]
waylay has High Card: King
DiogeneD laughs out loud.
waylay wins $3.96
Seat 1: auricus - $12.41
Seat 2: NOCKIO - $11.19
Seat 3: SamSufy - $9.80
Seat 4: waylay - $12.13
Seat 6: 4dtreboles - $16.62
Seat 7: Tommy168 - $28
Seat 8: DiogeneD - $8
Seat 10: 7MARCUS7 - $4.56
End Of Hand #535835893

Of course I bluff. you have to. but you can do it smart or stupid. If you got the right read and right amount of fold points ( respect) you can bluff at will usually if your a sniper as long as the other guy doesn't have a hand. Now why did I show them my hand?

because I want to put that uncertainty in there mind. Why? so they don't fear the sniper as much next time.
Thats physcoligical though and a whole new phase. I show my hand half the time usually. you know why though? because I'm not afraid to. And I want them to see it. I want them to have that information, to enforce an image. You guys are all stuck up on evaluating the hands. The hands are only examples to explain hopefully what I am trying to say. the words. read the words also.
Keep an open mind. this might explain it more I want them to think this.

Table #10752477 - Celestial Spirit
Starting Hand #535855547
Start time of hand: 03 Oct 2008 07:33:09
Last Hand #535855319
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: RING
Money Type: REAL MONEY
Blinds are now $0.05/$0.10
Button is at seat 8
Seat 2: SweetAngeleyes - $5.70
Seat 3: Betso - $2.50
Seat 4: waylay - $3.89
Seat 5: tonafita - $5.71
Seat 6: PinkEvilMonkey - $42.73
Seat 7: leighleo - $13.26
Seat 8: irihka - $7.95
Seat 9: tolac - $10
Seat 10: ketasztkerek - $7.70
Moving Button to seat 10
SweetAngeleyes posts small blind ($0.05)
Betso posts big blind ($0.10)
tolac posts $0.10
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [6c 7h] to waylay
tonafita: r u shagin the dealer pink ?
PinkEvilMonkey: not only woman
SweetAngeleyes: yeah i would think so
SweetAngeleyes laughs his *** off.
waylay calls $0.10
tonafita calls $0.10
PinkEvilMonkey folds
leighleo folds
irihka folds
tolac raises to $0.30
tonafita: every pair he makes trips on flop.... ffs
ketasztkerek calls $0.30
SweetAngeleyes folds
Betso calls $0.30
waylay calls $0.30
tonafita calls $0.30
Dealing Flop [8h 8c 4s]
PinkEvilMonkey: i lost a lot too this night
Betso checks
waylay checks
Player [***NO PLAYER***] brings $5 to table [10752477]
tonafita checks
ifukinghatepoker: stop fukin greetin tonafita
SweetAngeleyes: maybe you must play higher pink its your lucky day
tolac bets $0.30
ketasztkerek calls $0.30
Betso folds
tonafita: hes lucky as fck scott
waylay raises to $0.60
PinkEvilMonkey: but first place in 2 tourneys and second in 3^^
tonafita folds
tolac calls $0.60
SweetAngeleyes: omg
PinkEvilMonkey: no chance
ketasztkerek folds
Dealing Turn [As]
waylay bets $2.99 (all-in)
ifukinghatepoker: hmm shuttin down
SweetAngeleyes: shutting us down?
tolac folds
Taking Rake of $0.30 from pot 1
SweetAngeleyes: yeah
waylay shows [6c 7h]
waylay has One Pair: 8s
waylay wins $2.75
Seat 1: mrsifters - $5
Seat 2: SweetAngeleyes - $5.65
Seat 3: Betso - $2.20
Seat 4: waylay - $5.74
Seat 5: tonafita - $5.41
Seat 6: PinkEvilMonkey - $42.73
Seat 7: leighleo - $13.26
Seat 8: irihka - $7.95
Seat 9: tolac - $9.10
Seat 10: ketasztkerek - $7.10
End Of Hand #535855547


Fold points will win you a pot later at the right time.As I said A min raise from some one your scared of or respect is worth more than the biggest raise in the world. Now why bluff there? easy? table image. again as I was saying when you play long enough with some one you get a read on em. I knew I was a blind and I also knew he wouldn't bet out the 8 if he had it. NOW I USE my fold points. I know hes afraid of snipers. I callled with lots of fold points. I say don't get involved without premium hands right. Not always. You save these points for a reason. You don't go using em willy nilly. If your going to make a bluff you might as well make it worth it and take down a pot not just the blinds. You wait for that exact moment where you can use the combination of fold points & battle field awareness. fold points is scaring him basically the more you folded the more hes going to be scared when your in the pot. Now looking at the board I see 2 8's. Battle field awareness tells me he doesn't have an 8. Now I represent that I do using fold points and battle field awareness. Simple when really thought about. U can bluff smart or stupid.

Now the physcology aspect kicks in 2 mins later. Why fear the sniper.


Table #10752477 - Celestial Spirit
Starting Hand #535855906
Start time of hand: 03 Oct 2008 07:35:07
Last Hand #535855547
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: RING
Money Type: REAL MONEY
Blinds are now $0.05/$0.10
Button is at seat 10
Seat 1: mrsifters - $5
Seat 2: SweetAngeleyes - $5.65
Seat 3: Betso - $2.20
Seat 4: waylay - $5.74
Seat 5: tonafita - $5.41
Seat 6: PinkEvilMonkey - $42.73
Seat 7: leighleo - $13.26
Seat 8: irihka - $7.95
Seat 9: tolac - $9.10
Seat 10: ketasztkerek - $7.10
Moving Button to seat 2
Betso posts small blind ($0.05)
waylay posts big blind ($0.10)
mrsifters posts $0.10
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Kd Kh] to waylay
waylay winks.
PinkEvilMonkey: playing enough tables here, fulltilt and pokerstars
tonafita folds
PinkEvilMonkey calls $0.10
leighleo folds
irihka folds
tolac calls $0.10
ketasztkerek raises to $0.30
mrsifters folds
SweetAngeleyes folds
Betso calls $0.30
waylay calls $0.30
tonafita: no tourns at all
PinkEvilMonkey calls $0.30
tolac calls $0.30
ifukinghatepoker: did u start with $10 t?
PinkEvilMonkey: hmm
Dealing Flop [2h Qh 8s]
tonafita: aye
PinkEvilMonkey: i?
Betso checks
waylay checks
PinkEvilMonkey: no 4
PinkEvilMonkey checks
ifukinghatepoker: lmao ur pish
tolac checks
tonafita: my arrrse
ketasztkerek bets $0.40
Betso calls $0.40
waylay raises to $5.44 (all-in)
SweetAngeleyes laughs his *** off.
PinkEvilMonkey folds
tolac folds
ketasztkerek calls $5.44
Betso calls $1.90 (all-in)
PinkEvilMonkey: thinking befor all ins and calls ;
Betso shows [Ts Jh]
waylay shows [Kd Kh]
ketasztkerek shows [Th Qs]
Dealing Turn [2d]
Dealing River [Ks]
Taking Rake of $1.43 from pot 1
waylay has Full House, Kings over 2s
waylay wins $7.08 from side pot #1 with: Full House, Kings over 2s
SweetAngeleyes chuckles.
waylay says sweet.
waylay wins $5.87 with: Full House, Kings over 2s
SweetAngeleyes acknowledges a nice hand.
Seat 1: mrsifters - $4.90
Seat 2: SweetAngeleyes - $5.65
Seat 3: Betso - $0
Seat 4: waylay - $12.95
Seat 5: tonafita - $5.41
Seat 6: PinkEvilMonkey - $42.43
Seat 7: leighleo - $13.26
Seat 8: irihka - $7.95
Seat 9: tolac - $8.80
Seat 10: ketasztkerek - $1.36

U see they were afraid of a sniper, then they were not. Just in time for a kill shot. Exactly what I wanted them to think. Exact same scenario I explained above about KK. Battle field awareness and minamal loss. I have battle field awareness now. Now there afraid of the sniper again. Exactly what I want also.
U can bluff stupidly or smartly. I explained fold points for a reason. even though it sounds like dungeons and dragons it isn't. It is the only way I could explain what i'm honestly trying to say.
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