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DEALING WITH A SNIPER. Camoflauge is a snipers ally. It makes him unpredictable (hard to put on a hand), So when most ppl know a sniper is out there they revert to there Yang side a bit usually. Now there on your battlefield, where you want them. You will encounter minimal loss simply by doing nothing. PPL are afraid to fire because there uncertain, and you've done what you always do call or check. You will see something you don't see alot. Alot of checking (no one firing) more than likely. Why because there on a YANG battlefield. The rules of engagement differ here. They know they are on your battlefield and are uncertain. The other thing you will see is ppl start running if you simply enter a pot or call some one elses raise or bet yourself. Snipers RARELY get reraised, so if you do you better kick into minimal loss mode, and look at the board again. But hes giving you alot of info just by doing that. he's willing to risk it or he has a BIGGER gun. It is so sick the hands I folded honestly. But reverse logic is not easy. If your going to do it you do it FULL you dont maximize you minimize, you dont chase you wait for the kill shot,
you don't spend your AMMO hoping. You spend it TRAPPING. YOU SHOW THEM YOUR A SNIPER. why because your not afraid to hide and your SPECIAL FORCES. the only way to combat a style is to play an oppisite style. Now go find an aggressive person it wont be hard. I did not think this theory up I only opend my mind and applied it to poker.
Moving Button to seat 9
funkysly posts small blind ($0.25)
capumos posts big blind ($0.50)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [9h Th] to waylay
Tunk78 folds
waylay calls $0.50
winnie14803 calls $0.50
dragkrok folds
machielangelo calls $0.50
geijstedt folds
2020fox folds
funkysly calls $0.50
capumos checks
Dealing Flop [Ts Jh 4c]
funkysly checks
capumos checks
waylay checks
winnie14803 checks
machielangelo checks
Dealing Turn [8s]
funkysly bets $1
capumos folds
waylay calls $1
winnie14803 folds
machielangelo calls $1
Dealing River [Js]
funkysly checks >>>>> reverts to YANG
waylay checks
machielangelo checks
Taking Rake of $0.27 from pot 1
funkysly shows [7h Tc]
funkysly has Two Pairs: Jacks, 10s
waylay shows [9h Th]
waylay has Two Pairs: Jacks, 10s
machielangelo mucks
waylay wins $5.23 with: Two Pairs: Jacks, 10s
Moving Button to seat 2
waylay posts small blind ($0.25)
winnie14803 posts big blind ($0.50)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Ts Td] to waylay
dragkrok folds
champ2912 calls $0.50
machielangelo calls $0.50
geijstedt folds
2020fox folds
funkysly calls $0.50
capumos calls $0.50
Tunk78 folds
waylay calls $0.50
winnie14803 folds
Dealing Flop [Qc 8s 7d]
waylay checks
champ2912 checks
machielangelo checks
funkysly checks
capumos checks
Dealing Turn [3d]
waylay checks
champ2912 checks
machielangelo checks
funkysly checks
capumos checks
Dealing River [5d]
waylay checks
champ2912 checks
machielangelo checks
funkysly checks
capumos checks
Taking Rake of $0.15 from pot 1
waylay shows [Ts Td]
waylay has One Pair: 10s
champ2912 mucks
machielangelo mucks
funkysly mucks
capumos mucks
waylay wins $2.85 with: One Pair: 10s
Moving Button to seat 7
waylay posts small blind ($0.25)
databoy posts big blind ($0.50)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Jc 9c] to waylay
K1NGPKR calls $0.50
Clarka folds
frigo49300joso10 folds
me109 calls $0.50
machielangelo calls $0.50
clint70 calls $0.50
Valley83 folds
waylay calls $0.50
databoy checks
Dealing Flop [Td 5d 9h]
waylay checks
databoy checks
K1NGPKR checks
me109 checks
machielangelo checks
clint70 checks
Dealing Turn [Qh]
waylay bets $0.50 . A yangs bet is worth alot Honest. When you bet you create uncertainty. If your prepared to call .50 why not bet it. You achieve minimal loss because you really didn't want to call a 1 $ bet.
databoy calls $0.50
K1NGPKR calls $0.50
me109 folds
machielangelo folds
clint70 folds
Dealing River [Qc]
waylay checks
databoy checks
K1NGPKR checks
Taking Rake of $0.22 from pot 1
waylay shows [Jc 9c]
waylay has Two Pairs: Queens, 9s
databoy shows [Ts 3h]
databoy has Two Pairs: Queens, 10s
K1NGPKR mucks
databoy wins $4.28 with: Two Pairs: Queens, 10s
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AMMO conservation. This applies to ring games or tournament is a simple concept. If you don't risk it you can't lose it. Now throwing hands away is simple. run away fight another day. You can use what you got left to fight again
later at a more stategic time.
Moving Button to seat 2
waylay posts small blind ($0.25)
winnie14803 posts big blind ($0.50)
champ2912 posts $0.50
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Jc Qh] to waylay
dragkrok folds
champ2912 checks
machielangelo calls $0.50
geijstedt calls $0.50
2020fox folds
funkysly folds
capumos folds
Tunk78 folds
waylay calls $0.50
winnie14803 checks
Dealing Flop [As 3d Qc]
waylay checks
winnie14803 checks
champ2912 bets $1
machielangelo folds
geijstedt folds
waylay folds
winnie14803 calls $1
Dealing Turn [8d]
winnie14803 checks
champ2912 bets $2
winnie14803 calls $2
Dealing River [2c]
winnie14803 checks
champ2912 bets $2
winnie14803 calls $2
Taking Rake of $0.62 from pot 1
champ2912 shows [9c Ah]
champ2912 has One Pair: Aces
winnie14803 mucks
champ2912 wins $11.88 with: One Pair: Aces
Moving Button to seat 9
GhostBear posts small blind ($0.25)
TAMU79 posts big blind ($0.50)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Qc Ad] to waylay
aLittleProphet folds
waylay calls $0.50
winnie14803 calls $0.50
dragkrok calls $0.50
champ2912 folds
machielangelo calls $0.50
2020fox folds
GhostBear folds
TAMU79 checks
Dealing Flop [6c 2c 2h]
TAMU79 checks
waylay checks
winnie14803 checks
dragkrok bets $2
machielangelo calls $2
TAMU79 folds
waylay folds
winnie14803 folds
Dealing Turn [4h]
dragkrok bets $2
machielangelo raises to $4
dragkrok raises to $12
machielangelo calls $12
Dealing River [6h]
dragkrok bets $8
machielangelo calls $8
dragkrok shows [4c 4d]
dragkrok has Full House, 4s over 6s
machielangelo mucks
dragkrok wins $44.42 with: Full House, 4s over 6s
Foldin a hand to a raise allows you to play that hand again later for a better board hopefully. It enforces your image a Sniper.
Hearing words like chase maybe possibly doesn't sound appealing to me. Why not just fold not get involved and play that hand again later for less money and a better flop hopefully?
Moving Button to seat 3
winnie14803 posts small blind ($0.25)
dragkrok posts big blind ($0.50)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [7h Th] to waylay
champ2912 calls $0.50
machielangelo calls $0.50
geijstedt folds
2020fox folds
funkysly calls $0.50
capumos folds
Tunk78 calls $0.50
waylay calls $0.50
winnie14803 calls $0.50
dragkrok checks
Dealing Flop [Ah 2h 3s]
winnie14803 checks
dragkrok checks
champ2912 checks
machielangelo checks
funkysly checks
Tunk78 checks
waylay checks
Dealing Turn [6c]
winnie14803 checks
dragkrok bets $1.50
champ2912 calls $1.50
machielangelo calls $1.50
funkysly folds
Tunk78 folds
waylay folds
winnie14803 calls $1.50
Dealing River [7c]
winnie14803 checks
dragkrok bets $3
champ2912 folds
machielangelo folds
winnie14803 calls $3
Taking Rake of $0.77 from pot 1
dragkrok shows [5d 4c]
dragkrok has Straight, 7 high
winnie14803 mucks
dragkrok wins $14.73 with: Straight, 7 high
chasing involves you further and decreases your ammo. Play later again at a more strategic time It's simple concept.
Moving Button to seat 4
dragkrok posts small blind ($0.25)
champ2912 posts big blind ($0.50)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Ac Tc] to waylay
machielangelo raises to $1
geijstedt folds
2020fox raises to $3
funkysly folds
capumos folds
Tunk78 folds
waylay folds
winnie14803 folds
dragkrok calls $3
champ2912 calls $3
machielangelo calls $3
Dealing Flop [7h 9c 5s]
dragkrok checks
champ2912 checks
machielangelo bets $0.50
2020fox raises to $4.50
dragkrok calls $4.50
champ2912 calls $4.50
machielangelo folds
Dealing Turn [2d]
dragkrok bets $11.73 (all-in)
champ2912 folds
2020fox calls $11.73
dragkrok shows [6s 6h]
2020fox shows [Kd Ks]
Dealing River [2c]
Taking Rake of $2.47 from pot 1
dragkrok has Two Pairs: 6s, 2s
2020fox has Two Pairs: Kings, 2s
2020fox wins $46.99 with: Two Pairs: Kings, 2s
Not getting involved will simply do that. Leave you uninvolved. Thus saving your ammo.
Moving Button to seat 10
capumos posts small blind ($0.25)
Tunk78 posts big blind ($0.50)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [9s 9c] to waylay
waylay calls $0.50
winnie14803 folds
dragkrok calls $0.50
champ2912 calls $0.50
machielangelo calls $0.50
geijstedt raises to $3.75
2020fox folds
funkysly folds
capumos folds
Tunk78 folds
waylay calls $3.75
dragkrok calls $3.75
champ2912 raises to $7
machielangelo folds
geijstedt raises to $20
waylay folds
dragkrok folds
champ2912 raises to $44.13 (all-in)
geijstedt calls $44.13
champ2912 shows [Ad As]
geijstedt shows [Kd Kc]
Dealing Flop [2h Ts 4s]
Dealing Turn [7d]
Dealing River [5s]
Taking Rake of $3 from pot 1
champ2912 has One Pair: Aces
champ2912 wins $94.01 with: One Pair: Aces
Some things are just an easy fold no matter what. Extreme example of not trying to maximize but minimize.
If your going to get involved drawing you want more than one draw not just a draw.
Moving Button to seat 1
machielangelo posts small blind ($0.25)
MrJTB posts big blind ($0.50)
kvnpoker20 posts $0.50
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Ts As] to waylay
waylay calls $0.50
Palmenkeks calls $0.50
Celwyddog folds
PokerrPro folds
kvnpoker20 checks
MFLeonheart folds
machielangelo calls $0.50
MrJTB folds
Dealing Flop [4s Qc 7h]
machielangelo folds
waylay checks
Palmenkeks checks
kvnpoker20 checks
Dealing Turn [Ks]
waylay checks
Palmenkeks checks
kvnpoker20 bets $1
waylay calls $1
Palmenkeks folds
Dealing River [Ah]
waylay checks
kvnpoker20 checks
Taking Rake of $0.22 from pot 1
kvnpoker20 shows [3d 4h]
kvnpoker20 has One Pair: 4s
waylay shows [Ts As]
waylay has One Pair: Aces
waylay wins $4.28 with: One Pair: Aces
Here you have a NUT flush draw, and str8 draw plus obviously an over. You dont just go chase flush draws you have more outs. And if your going to chase a flush draw try to make sure its not like 8 high or something.
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THE TRAP
Moving Button to seat 1
machielangelo posts small blind ($0.25)
MrJTB posts big blind ($0.50)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Js Ah] to waylay
AnimeUK folds
waylay calls $0.50
Palmenkeks folds
Celwyddog folds
CalleFia folds
Tunk78 folds
MFLeonheart folds
machielangelo calls $0.50
MrJTB checks
Dealing Flop [Jd 2s 4s]
machielangelo checks
MrJTB bets $1
waylay calls $1
machielangelo calls $1
Dealing Turn [Jh]
machielangelo checks
MrJTB checks
waylay bets $4.50
machielangelo folds
MrJTB folds
Taking Rake of $0.22 from pot 1
waylay shows [Js Ah]
waylay has Three of a Kind: Jacks
waylay wins $4.28
Moving Button to seat 7
2020fox posts small blind ($0.25)
waylay posts big blind ($0.50)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [4d 2h] to waylay
winnie14803 calls $0.50
dragkrok folds
champ2912 folds
machielangelo calls $0.50
2020fox folds
waylay checks
Dealing Flop [7d 2d 4h]
waylay checks
winnie14803 checks
machielangelo checks
Dealing Turn [Ks]
waylay checks
winnie14803 checks
machielangelo bets $2
waylay calls $2
winnie14803 calls $2
Dealing River [Jc]
waylay bets $2
winnie14803 folds
machielangelo calls $2
Taking Rake of $0.58 from pot 1
waylay shows [4d 2h]
waylay has Two Pairs: 4s, 2s
machielangelo mucks
waylay wins $11.17 with: Two Pairs: 4s, 2s
dragkrok posts small blind ($0.25)
champ2912 posts big blind ($0.50)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Ts Qh] to waylay
machielangelo calls $0.50
geijstedt folds
2020fox folds
funkysly calls $0.50
Tunk78 folds
waylay calls $0.50
winnie14803 folds
dragkrok folds
champ2912 folds
Dealing Flop [Js 8c Qs]
machielangelo checks
funkysly checks
waylay bets $1
machielangelo calls $1
funkysly calls $1
Dealing Turn [6d]
machielangelo checks
funkysly checks
waylay bets $2
machielangelo calls $2
funkysly calls $2
Dealing River [Qc]
machielangelo checks
funkysly checks
waylay bets $3
machielangelo did not respond in time and is folded
machielangelo folds
funkysly folds
Taking Rake of $0.56 from pot 1
waylay shows [XX Qh]
waylay has Three of a Kind: Queens
Moving Button to seat 7
sondre41 posts small blind ($0.10)
waylay posts big blind ($0.25)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Kc Jc] to waylay
DrNobby calls $0.25
Buztie calls $0.25
ScipioAfricanus calls $0.25
Smaugtd folds
talon420 folds
aLittleProphet folds
irfanio786 folds
SilJoa folds
sondre41 calls $0.25
waylay checks
Dealing Flop [Ac 5s 2d]
sondre41 checks
waylay checks
DrNobby checks
Buztie checks
ScipioAfricanus checks
Dealing Turn [9c]
sondre41 checks
waylay checks
DrNobby checks
Buztie bets $0.25
ScipioAfricanus folds
sondre41 folds
waylay calls $0.25
DrNobby calls $0.25
Dealing River [7c]
waylay checks
DrNobby bets $0.85
Buztie calls $0.85
waylay raises to $2.55
DrNobby calls $2.55
Buztie calls $2.55
Taking Rake of $0.48 from pot 1
waylay shows [Kc Jc]
waylay has Flush, Ace high
DrNobby shows [7d 7s]
DrNobby has Three of a Kind: 7s
Buztie shows [Ah 5h]
Buztie has Two Pairs: Aces, 5s
waylay wins $9.17 with: Flush, Ace high
Moving Button to seat 7
betoxxx posts small blind ($0.10)
waylay posts big blind ($0.25)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Qh Td] to waylay
Cash2000 folds
cobylang folds
Sondio folds
lechawi folds
talon420 folds
weetam67 calls $0.25
0zange folds
betoxxx calls $0.25
waylay checks
Dealing Flop [9h Js 5c]
betoxxx checks
waylay checks
weetam67 bets $0.25
betoxxx folds
waylay calls $0.25
Dealing Turn [8c]
waylay checks
weetam67 bets $0.75
waylay raises to $1.50
weetam67 raises to $22 (all-in)
waylay calls $19.97 (all-in)
Returning $2.03 to weetam67 uncalled
weetam67 shows [Qc Th]
waylay shows [Qh Td]
Dealing River [4s]
Taking Rake of $2.05 from pot 1
weetam67 has Straight, Queen high
waylay has Straight, Queen high
weetam67 ties, and wins $19.57 with: Straight, Queen high
waylay ties, and wins $19.57 with: Straight, Queen high
Guess which person was scarier to the table here
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THE KILL SHOT.
Moving Button to seat 7
geijstedt posts small blind ($0.25)
2020fox posts big blind ($0.50)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [8h 8d] to waylay
funkysly calls $0.50
capumos folds
Tunk78 folds
waylay calls $0.50
winnie14803 folds
machielangelo calls $0.50
geijstedt folds
2020fox checks
Dealing Flop [Qs 5h 8c]
2020fox checks
funkysly checks
waylay checks
machielangelo bets $1.50
2020fox folds
funkysly folds
waylay raises to $4.50
machielangelo calls $4.50
Dealing Turn [8s]
waylay bets $5
machielangelo calls $5
Dealing River [Ah]
waylay bets $7
machielangelo folds
Taking Rake of $1.06 from pot 1
waylay shows [8h 8d]
waylay has Four of a kind: 8s
waylay wins $20.19
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THE FAKE
Moving Button to seat 6
Bravepitt posts small blind ($0.10)
Jackpockets posts big blind ($0.25)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [7c 9c] to waylay
waylay calls $0.25
Ebisu calls $0.25
Morph1 folds
lechawi folds
gbclaude folds
Soldbrain calls $0.25
Bravepitt raises to $1.25 >>>>>> this guy knows I'm a sniper and wants to make me run away again
Jackpockets folds
waylay calls $1.25 >>>>>> Oppps sniper actually called
Ebisu folds
Soldbrain folds
Dealing Flop [Ks As 4c]
Bravepitt checks >>>>>> reverts to YANG ( he's uncertain) Snipers always limp with AK AQ type hands.
waylay bets $0.75 >>>>>> minimal risk but a bet from a yang is worth more than one from a YIN
Bravepitt folds
Taking Rake of $0.16 from pot 1
waylay shows [7c 9c] >>>>>> Don't mess with a sniper or try to play him.
waylay has High Card: Ace
waylay wins $3.09
You may steal quite a few blinds off a sniper honest. But he'll be patient wait for the exact right time then SHOOT you.
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BLOW BACK it's going to happen.
Moving Button to seat 1
machielangelo posts small blind ($0.25)
MrJTB posts big blind ($0.50)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Jd Kd] to waylay
waylay calls $0.50
Palmenkeks folds
Celwyddog folds
TonyS82 folds
CalleFia folds
Tunk78 folds
MFLeonheart calls $0.50
machielangelo calls $0.50
MrJTB checks
Dealing Flop [Kc 3d 4c]
machielangelo checks
MrJTB checks
waylay checks
MFLeonheart checks
Dealing Turn [4d]
machielangelo checks
MrJTB checks
waylay bets $1.50
MFLeonheart folds
machielangelo calls $1.50
MrJTB folds
Dealing River [4s]
machielangelo bets $5
waylay calls $5
Taking Rake of $0.75 from pot 1
machielangelo shows [4h 8d]
machielangelo has Four of a kind: 4s
waylay shows [Jd Kd]
waylay has Full House, 4s over Kings
machielangelo wins $14.25 with: Four of a kind: 4s
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THE POT SHOT
designed to either get value (Build pot) and get ppl involved. Or test the water to see where you are.
It's a min bet basically. But what it does is create uncertainty because it came from a sniper. Usually done when he thinks he is ahead and is prepared to call a minimum bet anyway.
Moving Button to seat 3
AnimeUK posts small blind ($0.25)
waylay posts big blind ($0.50)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [Jd Qd] to waylay
Palmenkeks folds
Celwyddog calls $0.50
CalleFia folds
Tunk78 folds
MFLeonheart folds
machielangelo calls $0.50
MrJTB folds
AnimeUK folds
waylay checks
Dealing Flop [Kd Jc 2s]
waylay checks
Celwyddog checks
machielangelo checks
Dealing Turn [4s]
waylay checks
Celwyddog checks
machielangelo checks
Dealing River [7h]
waylay bets $0.50
Celwyddog folds
machielangelo calls $0.50
Taking Rake of $0.13 from pot 1
waylay shows [Jd Qd]
waylay has One Pair: Jacks
machielangelo mucks
waylay wins $2.62 with: One Pair: Jacks
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So you see when some one enters a pot by just calling, and you KNOW HE's a SNIPER, I'm pretty sure you might be a bit uncertain. What does he have? You got me he limped in like always Could bE AA or AK or 33. Now when You can also get that same respect by checking at the flop, Should you fire at the sniper? I don't know he checked again.
What if he flat calls me? then what? what If he fires back at me? you've created uncertainty by doing nothing.
As I said I have not got it all figured out yet. But I am noticing a real profit in my ring games lately. I did so at little risk usually, and with lots of respect.
I know you guys think I'm crazy and that im just to tight. I say I don't GAMBLE but PLAY but all I'm saying is THINK about it. when you think you learn more. Because I'm honestly sure I could NEVER EVER explain it better than that. maybe i'll get lucky and it will actually blow your minds.
When your a true sniper. Honestly if he knows it ( played with you before) it would not be strange to see him lay AK down with an A on board if you fire at him.
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Last edited by Krahsami; 7th October 2008 at 11:57 AM.
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