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| Nice job Frob - a very good read! Two enthusiastic thumbs up. There are always going to be beginners that want to take a stab at slow-playing, whether they know better or not. At least with this information they'll be armed with the tools to attempt it properly. ![]()
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| The only real hand that can be slow played is Full House. Everything else, slow playing will get you in alot of trouble if you can't grasp reading the board and player's actions yet. I've slow played trips only to get rivered by straights and flushes!! Soo unless you got the nut full boat, raise it like you stole it!!
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| I have posted an example hand where I "slowplayed" and only ended up making worse and worse decisions. The best example of how to play like an idiot ever. The sad thing is, that the hand is not fiction. That is exactly how it happened. That really is me and I really played that bad. Vomit bags are optional but recommended.
__________________ I get no respect. . . when I move all-in, people from other tables call. |
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| I'm kind of getting into slowplaying even more and more but I still have some problems with my Poker face because I still get too excited sometimes if I flop something strong. How did you guys overcome that problem because that would really help me improving my game.
__________________ A person without a sense of humor is like a wagon without springs. It's jolted by every pebble on the road. - Henry Ward Beecher |
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| I saw an interesting program once. They took poker players (and I believe they did this also with blackjack players at one point) and placed heart monitors on them and watched their heart rates jump to near-stroke levels when faced with tough decisions or when they got a monster hand. The fact of the matter is, even professionals get the jitters. The difference between them and us is that they have conditioned themselves over many years of practice to hide these emotions almost to near perfection. This kind of conditioning cannot be achieved overnight. It takes a lot of strength and will power to learn to control your body's natural reactions to tension and stress. The only thing that any of us can do is simply force our will power to its very limits. Ever hear the saying "Mind over matter?" Whoever coined that phrase was a genius...except he forgot one thing...he never mentioned the perfect way to accomplish perfect results. ![]()
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As for the poker face, that is a toughie. My best recommendation on this is to play at home online like it was live. Keep the emotions in check, stay calm no matter what the situation, good or bad. If you can take a terrible suckout or a great win with a sigh and the next click of the mouse, when you find yourself in a live game your mind set is already taken care of. It is just another game of poker, one of many. Later, ![]() ![]() |
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| I get the feeling this is for cash games not tournaments. I often feel that slowplaying in cash games is over rated but in tournaments it can be useful especially against a super aggressive player. But then slowplaying is a skill that is very subtle in nature and can only be exploited against certain players. Nice post! |
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| Str8s are NOT a good slow playing hand.....This has just occured in a sat. Hero (1670) Villian (1330) Hero (85o) Hero Raises 90, Villian calls Flop: 9 8 6 Villian bets 60, Hero Calls (pot is 300 at this point) Turn: 5 Villian checks (obvious str8), I check (I got two pair time to peel one off). A pot bet here, I am folding. River: 5. Villian bets 300. I think for a minute, shove, insta call, shows me A7 and he sees I bulit Noah's Ark because of his free card!
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you have to take more chances in tourneys than cash games, so although there is sometimes risk in slow playing, you have to take that chance to accumulate chips. i tend to do it when i've called a pre flop raise with a low pair, then hit trips. check it to him, he bets, you call to make it look like you're drawing. blank comes on turn, check again, he pushes and you take all his chips ![]() obviously it depends on how many people are in the hand. i'm not risking it if there's 4 to the flop and a flush draw on board. |
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| In a tournament, every chip matters. Unless the stacks are really, really deep... I am not slowplaying anything but an absolute monster (quads maybe). There's not enough implied value for the risk. If slowplaying increases my risk of losing the hand by even 10%, I would rather bet and just take the pot down. But that is me. And I still think beginning poker players shouldn't be slowplaying. It's usually a mistake and costs them value.
__________________ I get no respect. . . when I move all-in, people from other tables call. |
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| The funny thing is that so many new players hear about slow playing and really want to get value when they hit what they believe to be a good hand. Even good players general reserve slowplaying for the super aggressive oppnents and such. It should definitely be a tool and not a crutch. If you're not sure if it's correct to slow play, go with the best option...bet! |
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| A straight beats trips. So if slow playing trips can get you into trouble. Pot bets usually can push out a straight draw. It's the flush draws that worry me, so a larger bet with trips can push others out. Either way some will call and the coin flip starts. Best of luck with slow playing a good hand. To be a master at slow playing good hands, be aware of the table and push when you can. This will result in winning.
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Two enthusiastic thumbs up.
There are always going to be beginners that want to take a stab at slow-playing, whether they know better or not. At least with this information they'll be armed with the tools to attempt it properly. 