6-max vs Full Ring

[ballboy75]

The title speaks for itself. I was just wondering what your thoughts are on playing cash games in 6-max compared to 9 man tables. I know many of who play 6-max and the other way around. I personally am used to playing full ring and prefer it due to that very reason, im omre experienced at it. non the less, it seems as if 6-max is faster playing, more aggressive and usually has more money due to the fact that tehre are less players\more hands played.
I like action, but im not very aggressive. I do feel it is easier to trap players in 6-max because at least to me the players seem more aggressive. The position comes more into play.
It just seems like 6-max is a harder format to master since more hands are played and against the same people.
I would think that a player would be able to make more moeny on 6-max than on full ring due to those parameteres and obviously if they are any good.
any ideas guys, because ive been thinking of making a switch to 6-max.

[ballboy75]

doest anyone have a comment??
30 views already and not a single post.

[alw4ysontilt]

i like 6 man a lot more then 9 man tables when it belongs to cash game,
1st of all, a 6 man table let u play a lot more hands, the range of hands u play become a lot biggers, and im playng better on a short handed table, im playing aggersive and it does make a differnce, if in 6man ill raise 3/10 hands or something like that, in a full ring tables i just cant do it i have to have a hand, button raises are more difficult, u need to have a hand most of the times,
2nd thing is, in a 6man table u play more hands, there is a faster action, bang bang bang u play at least 3x faster then 9 man table, hands finish quickly.
in a 9man table the action is just slow, u have to catch hands and it really hard to make profit without hands, ur profit is usually based on the number of hand u get,

BUT and there is a big BUT, if u get some quality hands, u'll get action a lot more then in a 6man ring when lot of the hands finish with small pots, or u get walked or no action which is kinda frustrating.

so there are advantages and disadvantages whether playing 6man or 9man table.

[ballboy75]

some good points you bring up there.
I am on the fence between the two.
Would it be counter productive if I played both 6-max and full ring cash games?
would it be too dificult or do you guys think I should give it a shot?
Also, what is your opinion when it comes to playing MTT's?
Are 6-handed MTT's the way to go or 9 man? I dont even have an opinion on this matter since I hardly have any MTT experience?

[travz21]

6-max is more skillful and you have to adjust quite a bit to make the transition.

[alw4ysontilt]

when it belongs to MTT i think 9 man people on a normal tournement is better, on a MTT u dont wanna get action on ur big hands, and u dont want to be in the blinds very often, so 9 man table is a lot more easier to play and more chances of winning in my mind, u can pick ur spots and wait for hands, which u cant usually do in a 6man table when u have to be aggersive and steal lots of hands with margenal hands.

about ur question about playing in the same session both 9 man and 6man, i dont like that, becuase when u play a table u should come with a tactic, play loose aggeresive, tight or whatever ur game is, when playing both together, its really hard to make the adjusments.

[pajala]

From an hourly rate your are going to make a better rate long term with 6 Max v FR due to hands dealt per hour. However this comes at a cost and its called variance.

6 Max is far more suited to your LAG type player as hands you wouldnt play UTG in a FR now are almost a must in order for you to make a good living at 6 Max.

Expect to open your range of starting hands a good, pretty much anything you would open MP in FR is playable in 6Max in any position exluding the blinds.

If you would considered yourself a real TAG player it is going to take you a lot of time to get adjusted may be try playing 6MAX SNG's to get a feel for the game the agression required

Since Rush launched I only play FR and doing well

Good Luck with your efforts

[ballboy75]

ty, I will definitly give it a go when i feel I am ready.
I never played more than 3 6-man SNG's in my life I dont think.
I do very well in 9 man SNG's and that is one area where I feel I dont need to change a thing.
One thing you stated there that worries me is the variance factor.
Im pretty sure ive taken care of my "tilt" problem however more variance might upset me, thus im concerned that if I start off bad (for whatever reason, may it be lack or exp or just a bad run) I might start doing some foolish things.
I think I might give it a little more time before I try to make the transition.
Meanwhile everything seems to be going well for me and I do not wish to upset that.

[dew12109]

Originally Posted by ballboy75 ty, I will definitly give it a go when i feel I am ready. I never played more than 3 6-man SNG's in my life I dont think. I do very well in 9 man SNG's and that is one area where I feel I dont need to change a thing. One thing you stated there that worries me is the variance factor. Im pretty sure ive taken care of my "tilt" problem however more variance might upset me, thus im concerned that if I start off bad (for whatever reason, may it be lack or exp or just a bad run) I might start doing some foolish things. I think I might give it a little more time before I try to make the transition. Meanwhile everything seems to be going well for me and I do not wish to upset that.

That tells me that you haven't.

[ballboy75]

4 minutes. not bad.
I thought it would be at least half an hour.
Dew, I feel fine now, no tilts and what not. thats not a guarantee though that I might do something stupid if the get on a bad run, which is ofcourse more likely to happen if I start playing a new format.
thx for the encouragement anyway bro.

[dew12109]

Originally Posted by ballboy75 4 minutes. not bad. I thought it would be at least half an hour. Dew, I feel fine now, no tilts and what not. thats not a guarantee though that I might do something stupid if the get on a bad run, which is ofcourse more likely to happen if I start playing a new format. thx for the encouragement anyway bro.

I'm just saying, if you think you have "cured" tilt, you definitely haven't. Even the best pros have to make a conscious effort to not allow tilt to affect their game. The funny thing about tilt for me has always been just when I think I have it under control (usually because I start running good) I start running bad and it greets me again.

[ballboy75]

nah, thats just because youre afraid of it happening so it does. Your interpreting it as a cycle.
I dont believe in the nonsense that when you think youre running well, youll all of the sudden run the oppsite. its not a patern unless you make it one.

[dew12109]

Originally Posted by ballboy75 nah, thats just because youre afraid of it happening so it does. Your interpreting it as a cycle. I dont believe in the nonsense that when you think youre running well, youll all of the sudden run the oppsite. its not a patern unless you make it one.

That's not what I'm saying at all.

[ballboy75]

[QUOTE= The funny thing about tilt for me has always been just when I think I have it under control (usually because I start running good) I start running bad and it greets me again.[/QUOTE]

so whats this about?

[dew12109]

I'm saying that when I'm running good, I feel like I have tilt under control. As soon as I start running bad, I start tilting and then realize that I never really did have tilt under control.

[pajala]

Dealing with tilt is something we all need to understand will happen to you at some pont fact period.

How do you cope well thats the easy part

Running good: Do what ever it is to keep you luck in that chair and keep playing

Running bad: Give yourself a loss limit everytime you play lets for me in cash tables isnt two buyins then i am finished, i get up turn the computer off watch some tv do anything but play poker calm down and go an play again. I will go on tilt at some point this is my way of avoiding it. for SNG player say you go 5-10 in a row with out a cash get up and calm the fark down.

and another way to avoid tilt with cash turn the auto rebuy off works wonders

[kimlovo]

I prefer shorthanded since it is easier to steal, especially on the lower levels/stakes

[phaul]

6-max with antes is the nuts. People are far too timid.

[ballboy75]

Pajala, thats a good idea about limiting the amount of buy-ins one should lose in one certain instance.
I personally do the same also when it comes to winning.
When im playing 0.5\1 shallow (buy-in for 40$), I sometimes get up to 120-160$ in one of my tables. At this point I prefer to take the money out and know for certain that im going to be up a nice profit. I might be able to win more, also because im playing well, running hot or just have an enormous stack. The point is I believe a player should play cash games within a certain range.
I pull out from a table when I reach 200-250% profit and about 200% loss.
This is not accurate but is a pretty sincere estimate of how i play. It keeps me rather calm and collected. This is important for me as I have those rare TILT episodes that put me in self-destruct mode.
anyone else do this on the winning side as well?
or do you think it might be a bad idea?

[alw4ysontilt]

im not sure if that is a good idea, what you say there.
I dont think a player should limit their winnings if they are running hot at a certain table, it would seem counter-productive to me.

I do think its a good idea to limit ur loses when you arent running so well, it prevents your BR from reaching 0$.
Ive had this happen to me too many times.
Im starting to rebuild my BR and when I do (shortly I hope), im going to try and focus my efforts on 6-max.
I really think I could do good there and work my way up.