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Old 12th June 2008, 10:05 PM
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I dont know about you guys but I cant stand these people that get any ace and think they have to go all in. Last night I was playing online and I had around 30 dollars at the tbl, playing .10-.25 nl. I get in a hand where i have 88 and my opponent has AJ. The preflop action was he raised 2x big blind and I called. The flop came 3 5 7, he instantly goes all in. I know for a fact he is bluffing cause I seen him do the exact same thing 3 hands prior. I call, he has me covered and he hits his Jack on the river. It Burns me up, I do not understand how in the hell people play poker like this.

Am I wrong or what? I dont get it. Maybe these people just get button crazy. I dont know
I know I am supposed to come out on top and win when these idiots do this sort of thing, but I'm wondering when this will happen. Just burns me up

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Old 12th June 2008, 10:10 PM
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Write his name down and keep it to yourself, find him later and you will be able to take 3x that amount of money from him later on.
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You make money every time he does this!! What exactly is the point of this thread? :/
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Old 12th June 2008, 11:22 PM
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It's just another example of people who do not know the game as well as others. You'll find these people everywhere. The key is to take advantage of it whenever possible, and try not to lose too much to them in the process. It's all you can do. Just don't criticize them at the table...you want them to continue making mistakes...it's how you'll win overall.
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I play tourneys mostly and I know it differs from cash tables.
Calling any allin or going allin before the river can be treacherous, without the sure enuff nutts.
Sometimes even thoo you feel you have the best hand, stop and take time and think it through...
Like on the hand when you had 88, Since he went all in first, now your trying to beat him.
I know it may sound crazy, but you want your opponent to try and beat you...this way your playing your best and not tilting and overplaying an average hand against a loose nutt.
When he went allin, did you ask urself...(even if he has bluffed a few hands before, this usually follows with the loose nutt catching a power hand) does he have a bigger pkt pair, has he been playing any 2 such as 85 or 69 suited, Does he have overcards, is top pair worth going allin (this gets alot of people in trouble), could he have tripped,,,,, how many outs do i have if he has this or that. Do i have the chipstack to recover if im wrong.
Its hard to fold the best hand, but when you can fold powerful hands like KK and such, you'll do better in the long run.
Many times in tourneys it would be gut wrenching to fold my hand, but when theres to many possibile better hands or draws, you gotta let em go.
When i come out on top and look back at the hard folds I made, I know it was indeed the right plays.

BTW, this is just my 2 cents, I'm no pro, i don't have a PHD in poker, haven't read or wrote any poker books.Didn't sleep at a Holiday inn Express last night...lol.... just a low stakes online poker junkie.

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Old 13th June 2008, 01:24 PM
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Your read was correct but your advantage was only about 55-45% depending on suits. Even with a good read on this donk, is 88 the hand you want to call an all-in bet with. You have this bum pegged for money extraction, you could wait for a better situation. The title is ace anything, but this player did have two overcards (AJ not the best, not the worst) which made it a basic coin flip.

Your are at .10-.25 table, not exactly high stakes. I would explect plenty of donkey action at these levels as there really is not much money at risk.

No limit poker is a rough road to travel. The key is to stay within bankroll limits so these situations do not destroy your ability to bounce back and recoup your losses. Keep making good reads and play accordingly for the long haul.

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You make money every time he does this!! What exactly is the point of this thread? :/
The point of this thread was that I was venting to friends. If you dont like the post, dont reply on it, its that simply. I was just wondering what other people thought. So, Thanks to everyone who answered. It was very helpful and made me feel better.
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It happens. You are a 3-1 favorite after the flop. You should be happy because you are going to win money over the long haul in these situations. Just remember when getting your money in 3-1 you will lose 25% of the time, THAT'S POKER, THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT TO FIND YOURSELF.
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The point of this thread was that I was venting to friends. If you dont like the post, dont reply on it, its that simply. I was just wondering what other people thought. So, Thanks to everyone who answered. It was very helpful and made me feel better.
I gave the only (necessary) advice in the whole thread! (And Simmon as well ). I hate the post but still 'solved' this dilemma!
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Your read was correct but your advantage was only about 55-45% depending on suits. Even with a good read on this donk, is 88 the hand you want to call an all-in bet with. You have this bum pegged for money extraction, you could wait for a better situation. The title is ace anything, but this player did have two overcards (AJ not the best, not the worst) which made it a basic coin flip.
he is talking about after the flop, where like another poster said he is about a 3-1 favourite.
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wut r some of u guys thinking? 55 45??? wtf lol, thats if ur all in preflop, its not even close to that. 88 is extremely dominant in that spot, are you people really telling me that if you knew he had to over cards with no other draw that u fold the 8s, that is just idiodic. AJ are two rags in that spot, never give a donk respect n lay 8s down there, that is playing way to passively, and also there is no better spot to catch him and double up, that is a perfect spot to get his chips, dont fold 8s knowing that he has two overs, thats just bad poker.


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wut r some of u guys thinking? 55 45??? wtf lol, thats if ur all in preflop, its not even close to that. 88 is extremely dominant in that spot, are you people really telling me that if you knew he had to over cards with no other draw that u fold the 8s, that is just idiodic. AJ are two rags in that spot, never give a donk respect n lay 8s down there, that is playing way to passively, and also there is no better spot to catch him and double up, that is a perfect spot to get his chips, dont fold 8s knowing that he has two overs, thats just bad poker.


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Ty prodidy, my thoughts exactly!
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I understand your frustration. If I had a dollar for every time my KK or QQ got sucked out by an A-rag on an all in, I'd be rich enough own my own poker site.
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