Very Interesting PLO hand

[st_ever]

I found this hand on another forum and since i have been targeting heads up plo recently i found this hand very interesting.

effective stacks are 250bb deep.


Hero is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [7 6 5 8]
Hero raises $150.00
Player B raises $450.00
Hero raises $1350.00
Player B calls $1350.00
*** FLOP *** [7 8 9]
Player B checks
Hero ???

For me you have to bet out here. A 4 bet pot pre flop would stright away make your opponent think most likely AAxx.
That being said a competent ploayer would rr you in that spot.
Check behind is good for pot control but i just dont like it. He will bet any scary turn and your facing a tough decision.

[st_ever]

Sorry forgot add!!

So what would you do? It's very deep stacked making any decisions difficult.

[HeyKidMove]

That's a tough spot because with the reraise and then call pf, i would likely put my opponent on KKxx with xx being 2 big cards. Maybe AAxx, but I think there would have been another raise. That being said, it is more likely that our opponent missed that flop and the straight it good, and we still have the redraw to a boat. It is possible that he would have J-T in that spot, but I think it is better to find out that information by betting here.

[st_ever]

Thats my thoughts exactly.

But thinking about it with the 4 bet pre flop if you bet there your opponent is going to think you miss so a call/re raise could lead ypu into a big pot when you are only drawing to 4 outs. Not the spot ypu want to be in.

But again the check is not good either giving a free card to a draw.
Hand ranges are very difficult in omaha but IMO 10 J Q K sort of hands are definitely in his range!

[AnArkhos]

Seems that your opponent has a quality hand in any case. If you can put him on ACES, then u should bet pot, since u are holding two pairs. This is not a very good flop for you so it wouldn't be a very good hand to bet out, unless u can be certain that the opponent plays with aces.

Only imaginable hand type he could be trapping you would be a high double suited rundown like QJT9 or KQJT, with one suit being diamonds.

I would put the villain on AA, KK or even QQ here and would bet the pot to see where we are at. A reraise would have to be called, but after that it would get tricky. If you'd complete your hand with 7 or an 8, I'd say u are in the lead with second or third nuts, but if not, u are not in the clear for sure.

[kennyskywalker]

He flopped two pair and a straight. Not just two pair. You have to bet. Easy decision.

[st_ever]

I wish it was as easy as that.

you have a 250bb stack.

This will result in a massive pot if you bet and he carries on in the hand whether a re raise or call.

Although i think you should bet i def would not say an easy decision cause if he re raises considering his range and yours you could already be miles behind. And i for one would hate be stacked for 250bbs!!

[st_ever]

Here is the turn


Hero is the button
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [7 6 5 8]
Hero raises $150.00
Player B raises $450.00
Hero raises $1350.00
Player B calls $1350.00
*** FLOP *** [7 8 9]
Player B checks
Hero Checks
*** TURN ***[7 8 9][3] pot = $ 2700
Plaayer B bets $2400.00
Hero ???

[AnArkhos]

Oops- Yea he did.

But the str8 is a very weak one and the only thing that he might be drawing here is that FH with 7's and 8's and even those would not be nuts.

How did I miss that str8.

[Fictive]

I'm not much of an Omaha player, but I believe this is a hand that you should cut your losses on and run. There are massive amounts of draws there, and you "only" have a straight, and the ignorant end of it as well. Too many ways to get drawn out on, and you could even be already drawing dead. Tough hand.

[iceveins0901]

I think against a re raise pre, in a cash game I would shove and hope for the best, you have a decent hand with a redraw to the boat. I see stacks are 250 BB, but whats a BB? since your raise to 150, are BBs 50?

I doubt he would put you on 5678 when you re raised him pre flop. I am going with it this hand.


[edit] well I wouldnt necessarily shove if I still had many more chips compared to the 2400 he bet. I still think putting him on xxJT is too narrow of a range, you are beating so much that he would possibly bet here if he thinks you missed or are on a possible draw.

[AnArkhos]

Indeed. Well put.

[st_ever]

BB is a big blind so in this case we are talikng $12500 total stack.

Also the game is Pot Limit so unfortunately you can't just chuck it in.

The villains range is very narrow cause of the 4 bet pre flop.

AAxx is in his range as is any 4 broadway connecting cards. 10 J Q K is a very distinct posiblit.

The turn bet doesn't say very much as i would lead that turn after the check check pre flop with any 4 cards. The question now is Bet Fold or call.

Still a tough Decision IMO!

[stoffmakers]

u gotta raise it up on the flop to know where youre at. if you check the flop and he checks the turn, uve gained no more information. now it just results in an even more complicated situation. so i would raise the flop, if he reraises i would flat call and see what the turn brings. in this case of the 3c, i would prob check behind them although its doubtful he would check if he reraised you on the flop and u just flat called. but if he checks on the turn, u gotta be looking at ur implied odds on the river. if he leads out u only gotta call 1 bet to get huge showdown value.