you call with nothing, am I losing my mind

[BUILDMO]

Maybe there are just too many new players to the game of poker.
I was talking with a person at work and they had told me that their mother is now playing holdem at some site left un-named. (I will leave this un-named since all the sites have them).

Great for her, something to do right?

What really took me by surprise is that my coworker had told me point blank that her mother has no idea what she is doing.

Is this the reason why the stupid calls exist while the river gets them hooked?

My mind is prepared for this but my sanity isn't.

[liladypokerpro]

Another downside to the mass advertisement of poker sites on television. People of all ages watch it and think "oh I can do that" and jump right on their computer. Yeah, it has a LOT to do with the number of sick beats and suckouts.

[Wyte22]

Everyone wants to be the next chris moneymaker and think they can play poker like Phil Hellmuth or Daniel Neagreau. Me Included When I make the WSOP final table, my t-shirt will read "The Supa Donkey hath arrived! Let the loldonkament begin!"

[Fictive]

Originally Posted by liladypokerpro Another downside to the mass advertisement of poker sites on television. People of all ages watch it and think "oh I can do that" and jump right on their computer. Yeah, it has a LOT to do with the number of sick beats and suckouts.

I wouldn't call that a downside by any means. Sure thing, it's extremely annoying when people call with air only to hit that miracle card to suck out. But all things considered, that's where one gets a big chunk of his/her winnings: the weaker players, the donkeys, if you will. To me, that's another little beautiful thing about poker, anyone can win at it for a short period of time. That's the thing that keeps the weak players playing. The ones that have no clue. Always have to remember that even though they might take some of your cash, in the long run, they will go broke while the better players make profit.

[liladypokerpro]

I don't disagree with you Fictive. Granted it's not a permanent downside, but definitely with the growing number of newer players the inevitable suckouts and bad beats are becoming more numerous. Makes for longer swings in both directions, up and down.

[Fictive]

Originally Posted by liladypokerpro Makes for longer swings in both directions, up and down.

That's very true. I've been in the ass-end of that long swing last month for a while. Meh, it happens, and the up swing should start soon enough... or else...

[Brooklynbum]

I think it's good for serious online poker players. Ultimately it means that we'll have more bad players to win money against. Sure there willl be more suckouts and bad beats but then, there's always been suckouts and badbeats so it's ok.

More new inexperienced players equals more opportunities to win money for the better players.

[Vito_Nuccio]

Let them come and let them buy-in. We should all welcome the noobs as some have stated. This is an opportunity to increase our bankroll. There is nothing better than being in a poker game with an obvious fish, like shooting them in a barrel. Yep, sometimes they shoot back, but the positives definitely outweigh the negatives.

Lets all go fishing.

Later,

[PointerJake]

A month ago I would have said I agree, god damn donks always win. But I am finally on a 2 week upswing and will have a very nice cash coming so, I have to say let the donks keep on callin.

[Wyte22]

Welcome to Club Donkey!! Enjoy the rave!!

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[BUILDMO]

I've run up my account to over $500 stickly off freeroll winnings leading to bigger games (jesus rule 5%) then back down to $80 4x now. These next weeks look to be on the upswing considering the charting.

But certian players do just donk the board (or I call it stupid aggressive) and your AA is always a sure call. ( I say this while I push with 6/9 suited and finally win).

These turning points are usually around some funky calls ( allin) from opponents (and IEG on sunday during our Sunday SNG at Nordica - you had to call my bluff?)



Maybe I should teach my kid to play? He's on summer break.
Or I just might go allin everytime.
Let's make some serious cash!

[powrdragn]

We can't really be upset about sick beats and suckouts. There are two things to remember.

1. Good players want the game to thrive. We want there to be advertisements. We need those players to keep showing up. Otherwise the new influx of cash goes away and it's pros fighting pros. That's no good for anyone.

2. If they missed their river card you win. Everything went right untilt he river, so why complain. The next five times, you are likely to get their cash. You need to remember the good times as well as the bad.

We remember negative situations more readily as a defense mechanism. When your body doesn't like a physical sensation or emotion, we try to avoid them be making ourselves aware of the situation. For instance, when something is red in the kitchen we don't touch it as it smbolized heat and burns.

don't forget the bad times, just don't let them dominate your thoughts. Learn from them and take advantage of the new guys. It almost sucks to say it that way, but we are part of a very predatory game.

[Matthew]

Stupid calls happen only online (according to my experience). It seems like that people are much more willing to call ANYTHING online than in a real casino and it hurts if they get their lucky card on the rive.

[powrdragn]

I have to disagree. I've suffered (and witnessed) beats that are waaaay worse in real life than I've ever seen online.

[frob23]

lol, live I witnessed a player call a 3-bet all-in... BLIND. That's right... he called off his entire stack without looking at his cards. I know this because I was sitting right there and watched the cards as they were dealt and this guy waiting for his action (he'd been going crazy and I was waiting for him to act). The cards were never touched.

After the flop he turns over the cards... 5-8 offsuit.

Of course, the flop was 8-8-3. Turn was a 5. And he took down a huge pot worth nearly $1,000.

If only those things happened more often online.

[Wyte22]

That sounds like something that'd happen to me if I was holding AA =P

[frob23]

Originally Posted by Wyte22 That sounds like something that'd happen to me if I was holding AA =P

At the time I was holding QQ and the raise and reraise all-in in front of him didn't concern me because this game had gone crazy with him. I expected them to have A-x or a couple face cards. If they had AK or AA or KK... that's poker.

While I was waiting to see what he would do, I was thinking, "If I have AK or JJ+, I am shoving here if he's in." Sure enough, I had the cards.

I don't like reshoving QQ but the table conditions were right. So I reshoved and cleared it down to the three of us (the all-in, maniac, and myself). The all-in player turned over A-6.

The most amusing part, to me at least, was on the turn... when half the table started chanting, "Queen! Queen! Queen!"

Of course, it never came. But that's poker.

[Wyte22]

Originally Posted by frob23 At the time I was holding QQ and the raise and reraise all-in in front of him didn't concern me because this game had gone crazy with him. I expected them to have A-x or a couple face cards. If they had AK or AA or KK... that's poker. While I was waiting to see what he would do, I was thinking, "If I have AK or JJ+, I am shoving here if he's in." Sure enough, I had the cards. I don't like reshoving QQ but the table conditions were right. So I reshoved and cleared it down to the three of us (the all-in, maniac, and myself). The all-in player turned over A-6. The most amusing part, to me at least, was on the turn... when half the table started chanting, "Queen! Queen! Queen!" Of course, it never came. But that's poker.

Soo If I held the queens, the flop would have been 8 8 5

Turn= 8

River = 5 Just to remind me that I am poker's bitch

[Jonathank]

i wish everyone was a weak and clueless player. it's only about 80% of players now. probably will drop to 75% in the next 5 years. oh well.

[DEXTER08]

there are so many people who just play for fun, so they call with stupid cards get lucky, but there is no way they will win in the long run.