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Ick that sucks sorry to hear that


Tell me about it. If I barley got in the money, I would have doubled my buy-in. I was doing SO good too, oh well. I entered a bunch of MTT, and lost them all. But I played in a KO tourney, and got a little something back. My goal for this week: $200.
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Old 14th July 2008, 06:57 AM
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Old 14th July 2008, 07:10 AM
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It took me a bit but I finally found my Royal Flush and saved it LOL

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Old 14th July 2008, 07:30 AM
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Working from a small bankroll, I'd focus on more 9man S&G's with the occasional MTT.
The reason being a the top 3 of 9 get paid making it paying the top 33.33%
You won't build your roll as fast but it will be more consistant.


I'd also recommend moving up to the 2$ S&G's as soon as your comfortable, that way your only paying 12.5% buyin on each dollar instead of 25% buyin fee. (Full Tilt)

I also like the 2$ 18man S&G's. a little quicker way to build a roll but riskier.
Just avoid turbos unless you play HU. luck can come into play more often than skill in a turbo game.


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Old 14th July 2008, 07:58 AM
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Then I must stay consistently lucky, cuz I live and die by the turbos and that is where I make money (Espically HU turbos......normal HU is just too slow). Although had my first match to go into double overtime on the Turbo HU (what that means is the blinds were 200/400, far higher than they should have EVER gotten to!) and mind you, we started with 1500 chips, soo with M=3 for me and 2 for him, it was all in fest =P that was luck I won that one.
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Old 14th July 2008, 08:01 AM
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Yeah Wyte, but you yourself said that you can't control your aggression, which is probably why Turbos are more favorable for you


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Yeah Wyte, but you yourself said that you can't control your aggression, which is probably why Turbos are more favorable for you



I can't stand 9-max!! I am folding more than I can do! 6-max is ok, When I am running good, I can eliminate EVERY single player in a 6-max table (turbo 6-max) but HU turbo is, heaven

I enjoy playing more than folding, and at that, 9-max seems to be a crapshoot alot of times, because you finally get your blessed KK and you get raised, you come over the top and they are sitting there with aces.............THAT RARELY HAPPENS in HU =P but happens to me ALOT in 9-max =P.........9-max is evil it's the devil's way of stealing your money!

Edit: I've been working on my aggression factor When I do 9 player MTTs, I usually sit out the first 45 minutes. During that 45 minutes, I will watch people, make notes and If I just happen to get a group 1 hand, i'll pop it in. If I double up the first hour, I am super happy! but the 2nd hour in MTTs is what I love and yes the PS tourney I won a few days ago, was a Non-turbo, 9-max tourney, but it wasn't boring cuz i was 4 tabling
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Old 14th July 2008, 08:16 AM
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Yeah I hear ya...I just got busted out in 12th in an $11 buy in $200 guarantee...donk calls large preflop raise with K10 off while I had QQ...flop blank, I push he calls...turn K river 10 Why me...... they know I'm tight...... yet they still do it......


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Yeah I hear ya...I just got busted out in 12th in an $11 buy in $200 guarantee...donk calls large preflop raise with K10 off while I had QQ...flop blank, I push he calls...turn K river 10 Why me...... they know I'm tight...... yet they still do it......



THANK YOU!!!!!!! I hate that the first hour of the tourney. That's why I am going in wiht AA or KK only now! That way if they suck out on me, they worked for that pot and i'll go cry in my margarita.
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Old 14th July 2008, 08:23 AM
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LOL I hear ya there...

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9man a crapshoot......lol
patience and skill come into play in a 9man, where the best players usually finish ITM.

TURBO is a crapshoot at best, but fits a loose agressive player that plays any 2 cards.

HU is the only game where turbo is feesable.

HU is also a crapshoot, where most winners are decided by a coinflip. the bad side of HU is you can win 1 and lose 1 and you in the negative. Win 1 9man and follow by losing 2, hell your still ahead $, so thats the reasoning there.

It all comes down to the player and what they feel most comfortable playing. The advise I have given has worked well for me, but may suck for you. But advice is free, take what ya need and throw away what ya don't until they start charging for it.
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9man a crapshoot......lol
patience and skill come into play in a 9man, where the best players usually finish ITM.

TURBO is a crapshoot at best, but fits a loose agressive player that plays any 2 cards.

HU is the only game where turbo is feesable.

HU is also a crapshoot, where most winners are decided by a coinflip. the bad side of HU is you can win 1 and lose 1 and you in the negative. Win 1 9man and follow by losing 2, hell your still ahead $, so thats the reasoning there.

It all comes down to the player and what they feel most comfortable playing. The advise I have given has worked well for me, but may suck for you. But advice is free, take what ya need and throw away what ya don't until they start charging for it.
great advice, but I still hate 9-max .........and just so you know, the secret behind making profit at heads up is to win 3 out of 4 75% win rate is god in HU! Like today, i'm 5-1 (soo my win rate was 83.33% today, Out of the last 200 HU i've played, I am right at 78.2% i believe. Don't have the numbers in front of me lol). 9-max, you can seriously go 2-5 games before you even cash another. Plus they take to long =P espically if they are not turbo!

I was an ADHD child, i gots super short attention span.....soo i need game that go fast like NASCAR....soo I go HU!! ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM! I WIN!!! YA!!

ok i am naturally high, time for bed lol good night ya'll
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I was watching a pro play a SUPER short stack with SUPER turbo blinds and win it! It was a $28 SnG or something, 300 starting chips, and blinds went up every 3 minutes! This was just his style I guess because he won it. Me personally, I would NEVER even think about playing those games. I know I can work a short stack, but thats just crazy.

Now, given he is a pro, many people may have played differently than they would have normally and they might have gave him more chips than they should have, but for the most part, he played very well. I am a HORSE player, and a double/super stacked player. I like tournaments where skill prevales over luck in the long run. And those double/super stacked tournaments give just that.

I can rarley find a double stacked HORSE game, so the onle double stacked or super stacked tourneys I'll be playing is usually NL Holdem. I am not a turbo guy, but I could play either NL, PL, or Limit. When I play a single table SnG, I find that I am not waiting long enough and that I need more luck than skill when playing those (very little more luck than skill, but it's still more).

When I play the $1.25 90 player double stacked tournament, I'm in heaven. It's almost like that single table SnG, but I know I have more room to wait for hands, and to pick my spots. I can actually play my game, and have skill rule the table instead of luck mostly. The tourney I won, the $3 + $0.30, was a double stacked tournament. This provided me with more room to bluff, call bluffs, make moves, get my money in with the best hand, etc. I was basically playing the skill more than luck, and it was showing.

I'm not saying I prefer one game or one style over the other. But I am saying that everyone has different styles that work best for them. Mine, is double/super stacked tournaments, OR HORSE tournaments. If I can't find any of those, then I play anything.

But when playing different games, I tend to switch up my game a bit. Like between 9-max and 6-max tables. I know is 9-max, I have more waiting room, and can be a little bit more relaxed than 6-max. But I don't play like a crazy loose maniac in 6-max. I just be a little bit more aggressive, and open up my starting hands a little bit more than I would at a 9-max.

As you already know, HU is play almost every hand. I'm not going to give away my HU game, so I won't go into much detail about that.

So to sum it all up, I can play any game I feel comfortable at the time. I can even Multi if I wanted to. But people prefer some games more than others. The key is, to perfect your game and it will get you far. The more styles you perfect, the better poker player you will be. For me, it's HORSE games, and double/super stacked tournaments. For you Wyte, it's HU games, Turbo prefered. For Boiler, it's the old fashion 9-max tables. I don't know which style liladypokerpro prefers, so I am not going to even try and guess.
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Oh, and if it's a KO tournament, I like it even better. I tend to collect my buy-in in just bountys before I even reach the money. If not all of my buy-in, at least most of it. So it's like I can win money without even getting in the money!
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Oh, and if it's a KO tournament, I like it even better. I tend to collect my buy-in in just bountys before I even reach the money. If not all of my buy-in, at least most of it. So it's like I can win money without even getting in the money!

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Well....

I prefer NLHE short-handed cash games, but as far as tourneys go, I can/will play in just about anything as long as my mind-frame is right for it i.e. no distractions. As you know, I usually play in the wee hours of the morning, because typically there are no distractions... except the other morning when the cat went psycho but we've already covered that previously LOL

As for tournament particulars, anything without a rebuy is preferred i.e. freezeouts, but if there is a minimal amount (like 1 rebuy or 1 add-on), then I may get froggy and play if not too many participants. Overall, I have done well in NLHE, Omaha Hi/Lo, Stud Hi/Lo and Razz as far as tourneys go, disregarding the past few days' events. I haven't played any HORSE tourneys only because Nordica very rarely has any when I'm playing, but wouldn't put it past myself to try it if they did.


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I didn't know you played HORSE! Thats my favorite game! We should play together some time.
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Sure, but it'll have to be a play chip game if you want to play on Full Tilt lol And yeah, I play just about everything. I'm pretty well-rounded as far as diversity goes.

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