The A - 10 Suited Debate...

[liladypokerpro]

Okay a couple of my friends have been arguing for almost a week about how good or bad A - 10 suited REALLY is as a hand.

One feels like any AA, AK, AQ, AJ and A10 is a good playable hand, but that anything lower than a 9 with an Ace and he won't play it.

The other one feels like A10 (suited or not) is just a ridiculous hand and won't play it at all.


What's your opinion of A10 suited? Good play or bad?

[Jarlsberg]

I'd play it the same as any other suited ace-rag. Obviously most of the time this involves folding, but there are situations where a limp or a push is appropriate.

[irishpkr]

From a cash game perspective, full ring:
I don't think its profitable to open AT from the first 3-4seats to be quite honest, from middle-late/late I might open for a raise. (never play FR so a bit shaky )
As for 6max, from UTG I'm normally mucking this, I'd definately openraising it from the button, cuttoff, and from MP. I'm raising from SB if its folded round to be, ofcourse also raising if folded to SB who completes, gotta raise it there.

However, I really dislike calling an UTG/MP raise with ATs. My main issue is that, if the flop comes A84, and your opponent bets the flop, then the turn, and maybe the river too, there is a fair chance that you are outkicked. This hand can have some reverse implied odds issues, so youhave to be prepared to let your top pair go against tight opening raisers. I pretty much only play it for flush/straight value,2pair, or even TPTK

[PointerJake]

I play mostly cash games and I usually limp with ace 10, if an ace hits on the board I feel like I have better kicker then other limpers. Sometimes I get aggresive with it but only if I have position. Ace 10, ace jack, and ace 9 i play almost exact same way.

[irishpkr]

Limping = horrible

[PointerJake]

I strongly disagree myfriend. I play mostly 2-5 cash games though. If your talking about freerolls you may have a point

[Fictive]

Hmm, an interesting topic. I actually have found AT to be an easy hand to play, mostly because I just simply consider it to be fairly crappy.

If I do choose to play it, I never limp. Sometimes, depengind on the table and my current image in it, I might raise from early position, but this is extremely rare. Most of the time I muck it. MP, again, depending on the table, I might play it and raise. Late position if it gets folded to me I always play it. Only time I limp with it (or almost any other hand, for that matter) is when there are several callers before me and I got ATs, so I'll look for a cheap flop in hopes of hitting a big draw.

[irishpkr]

If you're the 1st/2nd to act after everyone folds, limping is pretty much disgusting, after a ton of limpers you can take a cheap flop sometimes(providing the table is weak-tight, someone will probably raise it up a ton to punish if they have a clue). As said above its only really worth playing to hit flush (as with any Ax)or straight.

[frob23]

If and how I play A-10s is dependent on a lot of things. But, in general, for NL I won't play it. There are places and times but I'll pass most of the time. Now... I play with a lot of aggressive players which can make playing A-10s a lot harder than some places. Trying to get in cheap is likely to be punished... and facing a reraise with this hand is one place I don't like to be.

At a weak limit table, I am playing A-10s a lot. Mainly because it's likely to be cheap and see a lot of action later in the hand. I'm looking for the flush... most of the time. I'm often limping with this hand in a limit game.

[mollila]

Originally Posted by liladypokerpro What's your opinion of A10 suited? Good play or bad?

Speaking in terms of fixed limit hold'em, its a good hand to open with a raise from middle-late position. I'd fold it from early position in full tables, but in shorthanded its an ok hand to open with even from utg.

[Vito_Nuccio]

A-10 suited can be played and played many ways. It can also be folded. Like always in poker, the situation determines plan of action. Position, chip stack, player reads and so on.

I treat A-10 like I do A-rag as stated by another poster, not a hand where you want to flop the ace even if only two see the flop.

I can not say I do this or that with this hand or that hand as there are many more variables to process, but A-10 suited is what it is, two higher rank cards, no more.


Thanks,

[liladypokerpro]

This is exactly what I was trying to convince my friends of when they kept arguing back and forth with each other about it.......I tried to tell them that they are both right depending on what situation they are dealing with.....but you know how stubborn some people can be......