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| No one should need the turn or river cards, we're playing the flop... not the turn or river. I have tried to reconstruct the hand as best I can from what you've provided. How many people are at the table? Is this a tournament? Pre-flop stacks... Player 1: 1858 Player 2: 1285 Player 3: 1165 Hero: 1343 Were any of these players in the blind? How exactly did pre-flop go? Who was where? Not real sure how this works out... but you're saying that we're seeing this flop with 3 others and an unraised pot. So it's 480? Now, you mention a bet of the pot? Who made it? You say there was a bet of the pot and a call... so it's 1440-480 for you... or 3-1 pot odds. With only 1223 left, you have 743 if you call and the pot will be 1920. If you call here, it's going to be real hard to fold on the turn. Calling is not an option. You could shove but you have no fold-equity because the pot is already too large for them to get away from this hand. At this point, assuming 2 players called outside the blinds, I am fairly certain your hand is already beat. You need a J to win. And that might not be a sure win... someone could have A-Q (misplayed) or QJ or Q-9 and you could be drawing to a chop. Even if you were drawing live... it's about 4.6-1 against you making your hand by the river (you are pot-committed if you continue on with this hand at this point). Let it go and find a better spot. I would have also said this if you said the next two cards were K-K or contained a J... btw.
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| if you were playing the hand you should have raised preflop. That would have made the flop better to get away from if someone still lead out and bet. as is 2nd pair is not that strong for a pot commiting call.
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