Jack Ten...what do you think?

[liladypokerpro]

I've seen a lot of varying opinions on Jack Ten as a starting hand.

Some people will play it pre-flop as if it were AA when it's suited, but will not when it's off-suit.

Some say Jack Ten suited has the best statistical pre-flop odds...I, for one, had never heard that before, and am unsure about that statement's validity, as there are just sooooo many varied opinions about it, it's really hard to validate it 100%.

SOOOOO...........

How do you feel about Jack Ten as a hand, both suited and not?

Do you agree or disagree that it has the best pre-flop odds statistically?

How do you play it (pre-flop and/or after the fact) and why do you play it the way you do?

[iceveins0901]

How do you feel about Jack Ten as a hand, both suited and not?

JTo sucks, JTs is decent

Do you agree or disagree that it has the best pre-flop odds statistically?

Statistically AA has the best odds to win preflop still, and what was it, 56s is better against a big pocket pair than JTs?

How do you play it (pre-flop and/or after the fact) and why do you play it the way you do?


If I play it, 95% of the time it has to be suited. Also the aggression in which I show on any and all streets are pretty read dependent and situation based, you want to know who is in the pot with you before diving in on this particular hand.

If I am in a Late position I will raise it, Middle position limp, Early fold. For me preflop, I look at JTs like Jacks, Tens, or even sometimes AKo, preflop a good hand shorthanded, but try not get carried away with it early. (Most times I wont lay down JJ or TT early, and sometimes I dont auto raise with AKo)

On the flop, should you hit a good straight or good flush draw or both, your hand has just become a whole lot better, play it for a bet most times in late position, and if it has been bet to you, typically call or raise depending on your outs, more than 12 serious outs, consider raising the flop sometimes, you have plenty of cards and 2 chances to draw. If you are in earlier position, a Check/Call or even a Check/Raise can be good, again depending on your draw.

If you miss the turn with your good draw, you might want to slow down, unless you have a good chance to bet and win the pot right there. I would check should you be last to act, catch that free card that they gave to you, you paid on the flop for the free river, sweet. There are times where I will bet the turn, just to keep my opponent off track. In early position, a Check/Call or Check/Fold depending on your outs and the size of the pot, if you are getting correct odds to chase, it is a good play.

Should you get to the river, that is the easiest stage, if you missed, Check/Fold, unless you have a good read and can bluff for the win.
If you hit, Most of the time lead out betting, you cannot afford to Check/Raise in early position. If they check last you might as well chalk it up as a loss while scooping the pot.

[MikeyInc]

See i Would Play Both Of those Cause alot of hands are won on the flop.. and flop a J and u can force out. i wouldnt say slow play it

[Vito_Nuccio]

J-10 is a tweener hand. You need to know where you are in relation to position, chip stack, game type, player reads and such. You can fold, raise, and call with these types of hands, action depends on current real time decision.

The real danger of the suited connectors as the cards get higher in rank is they start to look stronger but when you flop top pair you could be outkicked, 10 or higher is enough for many players to stay in when their other card is an ace or even a king. Now you are in big trouble.

Play j-10 s and j-10 o like they are, drawing hands, but also draws that could be 2nd best.

Good Luck.

[liladypokerpro]

All great responses, thanks. Looking forward to seeing more opinions on this...

[Fictive]

Originally Posted by MikeyInc See i Would Play Both Of those Cause alot of hands are won on the flop.. and flop a J and u can force out. i wouldnt say slow play it

True, but it's also a dangerous hand, with a J on the flop you could easily be dominated against JQ, JK, JA. Nevertheless, I enjoy playing that hand, but like someone already said JTo isn't really worth anything, JTs is a nice little drawing hand. JT is one of those hands that you need fairly good post flop skills to play it.

[stoffmakers]

really depends on the situation and ur position. its pretty tough to just talk about a hand randomly without any further info.

[liladypokerpro]

Originally Posted by stoffmakers really depends on the situation and ur position. its pretty tough to just talk about a hand randomly without any further info.

There IS no further info....this is all that there is....sorry.....