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Old 18th April 2008, 05:55 AM
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*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DcInTheBluff [Qh Ah]
glennybob folds
CALCULATED707 folds
JohnPrzytulski folds
lstanbul folds
TOPAZDRAGON raises to 120
DcInTheBluff raises to 420
daVroket folds
knguvqns folds
TOPAZDRAGON raises to 1,600
DcInTheBluff has 15 seconds left to act
DcInTheBluff calls 860, and is all in
TOPAZDRAGON shows [Ks Kh]
DcInTheBluff shows [Qh Ah]
Uncalled bet of 320 returned to TOPAZDRAGON
*** FLOP *** [9h 2s 3h]
*** TURN *** [9h 2s 3h] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [9h 2s 3h 7h] [7s]
TOPAZDRAGON shows two pair, Kings and Sevens
DcInTheBluff shows a flush, Ace high
DcInTheBluff wins the pot (2,620) with a flush, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
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was that a bad beat?.....cause after that hand that guy started bitching lol saying it's a bad beat and all on thing i said to him was Poker is not about winning and losing, it is about making the correct decisions. am i right or wrong???.

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Old 18th April 2008, 07:25 AM
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[quote]was that a bad beat?[quote]

No...The actual percentages I'm sure someone will post, but I think it's like 52% to 48% with you being the underdog.

It's just you guys decided to race, and that's what happens when you race. I posted a hand on here. First hand of the tourney. I had AA. Dude pushed with T4o. I called. He won.
But like lilLady said. That's just the way it is. It happens so after awhile you get numb. I try to find humor in it.

On the other side of the token. Put yourself in his shoes.(And really do it)
Ud be hot! Hotter than a $2 gun. lol

I know I would, but he'll get over it. And so will you.

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Old 18th April 2008, 09:09 AM
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[quote=Latrocinium;16761][quote]was that a bad beat?
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No...The actual percentages I'm sure someone will post, but I think it's like 52% to 48% with you being the underdog.
Not quite that good. Pre-flop it's 68%-32%. The flop improves the hand to 56%-44% underdog. Not a bad beat. A suckout, yes.
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Old 18th April 2008, 08:48 PM
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See I told you. lol

Thanx for the assist fictive
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Old 19th April 2008, 07:41 AM
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See I told you. lol

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Anytime, buddy.
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Not that bad of a beat... but bad play with AQ IMO on the flop you had 12 outs which is pretty much a flip... but pushing with AQ after a reraise is pretty marginal... what would he be reraising you with? TT+ AQs+?
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Old 25th April 2008, 05:44 AM
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Judging from what was given, it looks like all the action happened pre-flop. I've seen worse suckouts than this...the complainer (other player) needs to get a grip if he can't handle a simple beat like this......it's not bad enough to be considered a "bad" beat, just unfortunate luck for him.

This is a pretty typical beat seen pretty often online.....In all honesty, AQ suited heads up with preflop action is one of those hands you either feel real good about or take your chances with. You took your chances and you won. They don't call it gambling for nothing LOL

As for me, to really say what I would have done in this situation I'd need to know more about the other player's previous activity. But from what is given, I stand by my first response. You took your chances, and you won. No guts, no glory. Take it down.
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Old 25th April 2008, 03:04 PM
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Raising with AQ suited is OK, but to call a reraise for all your stack is another matter. The bets are in the low hundreds so I will assume it is still early in the game, no need to go broke. 30%win chance is not the best way to improve your stack. It was a suckout, but I do agree that it was also a bad beat. He got his money in with a 70% winning chance and lost.

I hope you put the chips to good use because playing AQ suited with no fear will lead to empty felt in front of you in the long run.

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This hand, IMO, was played too aggressively PF. I understand your raise in a way, but since it commits you in the pot almost reagardless of the flop. (Even if you hadn't been reraised allin, it is not that good of a move.) Once you did, the call on the reraised on your half was correct play, since u had very little left behind after your own raise, although it was very certain the villain had a very good pockets there. I would put him on QQ/KK/AK/AA and you would be almost drawing dead, apart from suit u have.

Early in tournaments it is very critical to get your stack bigger, of course, but since the gamble is one with a negative EV, its not that good in the long run.

Glad you hit yours, but it would be better to change this play a bit, since you have nothing completed.

Of course, this is only my opinion, and in one of my weakest games.
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you beat him to the finish line and that is what counts. We all have won and lost in the very same way.
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Yeah what rlg said.
Plus, your were 3:1 to win the hand. and when he moved all in u were getting 2.1:1 on ur money.
So roughly, it was ok price wise.
But personaly, I woulf have folded I think to his re-raise, by this stage you would have to put him on AK or KK or QQ, or AA.
But none the less, this is where the 68/32% comes into play, the next 4 hands like this u will lose. hehe.
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I disagree with some that indicate it was a good call. AQ is a marginal hand to a strong reraise.

You neglect the fact that the person with KK is the initial raiser and then out of position comes over the top of a reraise.

AQ is usually a safe hand to lay down at that stage as I would almost certainly put the person on QQ, KK or AA at that stage (AK at the worse, but unlikely) making the AQ a far worse than 2:1 underdog. You would need at least 3.5:1 on the call to even remotely justify it on price and then hope for a suck out and you werent getting that price at all
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i think this hand was just a cooler, not a bad beat. but regardless, i think you played it awfully, which could make it a bad beat. dont know why you would call his shove with AQ.
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what makes you reraise with a/q, and then call an all in with it?


bad play imho
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