Soo what did I do wrong here?

[Wyte22]

Full Tilt Poker Game #7562548215: $33 + $1.50 Heads Up Sit & Go (57532630), Table 1 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:29:32 ET - 2008/08/08
Seat 1: laci (2,095)
Seat 2: Wyteman (905)
Wyteman posts the small blind of 25
laci posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Wyteman [Qh Td]
Wyteman raises to 905, and is all in
laci calls 855
Wyteman shows [Qh Td]
laci shows [2c 4s]
*** FLOP *** [3s 4h Kh]
*** TURN *** [3s 4h Kh] [8h]
*** RIVER *** [3s 4h Kh 8h] [9d]
Wyteman shows King Queen high
laci shows a pair of Fours
laci wins the pot (1,810) with a pair of Fours
Wyteman stands up
laci stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,810 | Rake 0
Board: [3s 4h Kh 8h 9d]
Seat 1: laci (big blind) showed [2c 4s] and won (1,810) with a pair of Fours
Seat 2: Wyteman (small blind) showed [Qh Td] and lost with King Queen high

[frob23]

lol... when it's heads up... I typically play a lot of smallball poker. Raising 2.5-3xBB pre-flop. So you could have tried that.

But they called an all-in with 2-4. Can't complain too much.

[Wyte22]

it's like I wronged a 42 or something, this is the 2nd time in the past couple of days that a 42 has eliminated me!!

[powrdragn]

I'm no heads up expert, but I do agree with frob. You technically got your hand in with te best of it, but you could have given yourself room for a bit of play.

I'm learning more and more that it's not usually worth it to shove preflop in a heads up situation.

[Wyte22]

BUT I wanna know.......HOW THE Heck DO YOU JUSTIFY calling an ALL IN with 42o? Is there some kind of math that say "ok 42o...hmm that'll beat all of 1 hand, i'll call his all in because I play at full tilt poker!"

[phosphorescence]

wow, i'm gonna have to start playing heads up if there are donks like this about lol

[frob23]

Originally Posted by Wyte22 BUT I wanna know.......HOW THE Heck DO YOU JUSTIFY calling an ALL IN with 42o? Is there some kind of math that say "ok 42o...hmm that'll beat all of 1 hand, i'll call his all in because I play at full tilt poker!"

Would you rather they call with AQ there?

I don't know how they sleep with themselves but I'll be happy to have them at my table if they make calls like that.

[Wyte22]

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Originally Posted by frob23 Would you rather they call with AQ there? I don't know how they sleep with themselves but I'll be happy to have them at my table if they make calls like that.

Yes actually, Getting beat by 42o is like getting beat up by a 2nd grader and your on the New York Jets Football team =\ If I get beat in a pot and in a game, I want to get destoryed. Like Flop quads or str8 flush or something like that!!

[frob23]

Dude... you need to watch Bucklox.

YouTube - Poker Lesson #1 - Never let avatars...

That is one video... there are like half a dozen. Not only is it GREAT stress relief. But his advice is classic. "I prefer to have lower hands. Because everyone knows that winning... winning with lower cards is much better than winning with higher cards... I mean it feels better."

Honestly... I nearly die sometimes when watching these. "Having an 8 in your hand is like having a wild-card."

Plus, he does stick to his horrible advice. He's folding AK, AQ, AJ, and stuff like that... and calling with 8-3 suited...


Edit: after you watch that... go to youtube and look up "Bucklox" and watch all his lessons. If your poker game doesn't improve... (it won't) at least your mirth will.

[liladypokerpro]

Hey Wyte...don't stress it man...you said that 42o has beat you TWICE this way...2 times, out of how many hands? I've seen you play HU and you're good at it. Don't worry about 2 losses when you have so many wins under your belt. Let it be as it was...in the past. Focus on the games to come.

[powrdragn]

The thing to remember is good players don't get nearly as many suckouts as bad players.

And that's simply because good players don't get their money in bad nearly as often. So your chances of a suckout are so much less.

[XDRAGON]

Can we please ban bad beat stories from the forum pleaseeeeeeeeee?

[liladypokerpro]

DUDE....I want some of what BuckLox is smoking LMAO

[livinthelive88]

In my humble oppinion,
900 vs 2100
50 blinds
Heads up
No reason to push, only two possibilites, you get lucky, you lose.
Raise to 200 if u really want them to fold,
Same basic effect, with much less risk.

But heads up should never be evaluated on 1 hand. Its a momentum and image game.

You still got 18 bb stack (or in heads up I always think of it in terms of # Blind Out or # Limp Hands left)
12 Blind Out hands (Remember blinds will increase before your out)
7 Limp Hand

[phaul]

Answer to post title; you shoved.

[RiverstarsVictim]

Originally Posted by phaul Answer to post title; you shoved.

Shoving when ahead is wrong, or are you suggesting something more sinister?

[phaul]

Lol he didn't know he was ahead! Vill's cards are blank. He has 18BBs, vill has 42. Shoving QTo vs. almost any calling range is horrendous. It's only better EV than folding if vill will call hardly anything or nearly ATC. And even then your EV prob isn't as good as if you just make a normal raise.

[MikeKnows]

You did not have that good of a hand to start with and going allin was crazy !

[phaul]

mike knows...

[Wyte22]

Heads up play is less about the cards and more about playing the player. This villian was hyper-aggressive but folded to all in bets, NOT pot (or large raises outside of the all in). That's why I made the all in.

Also, QTo is a very decent hand HU, because the value of ALL hands are increased dramatically.

6max and 9max are more about the cards and images, HU is more about, what kind of story can I tell you? a funny example of that:

Full Tilt Poker Game #7816462132: $33 + $1.50 Heads Up Sit & Go (59436013), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:03:05 ET - 2008/08/26
Seat 1: Stoney2285 (1,530)
Seat 2: Wyteman (1,470)
Wyteman posts the small blind of 15
Stoney2285 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Wyteman [xd xd] <--leaving this out soo ya'll can guess what I had .v. what he had.
Wyteman raises to 60
Stoney2285 calls 30
*** FLOP *** [8s 8h 6h]
Stoney2285 checks
Wyteman bets 30
Stoney2285 calls 30
*** TURN *** [8s 8h 6h] [2c]
Stoney2285 checks
Wyteman bets 30
Stoney2285 calls 30
*** RIVER *** [8s 8h 6h 2c] [6d]
Stoney2285 checks
Wyteman bets 1,350, and is all in
Stoney2285 has 15 seconds left to act
Stoney2285 has requested TIME
Stoney2285 calls 1,350