Sticky situation

[charleychacko]

In a Noble tournament I picked up KcQc. Good hand so i raised before the flop and was called by a few. Flop was As Ks Qh. Although i made 2 pair, i just checked. I could already be beat. Turn was a blank then the betting came. I folded and it turned out the bettor had Js 10s.

I was already drawing dead unless i made a fh. Unlikely. I kept myself in the tournament by not overplaying the hand.



It hurts but sometimes you gotta lay down a good one.

[Sabrina]

It is tough and sometimes I just can't do it!! You made a tough call to lay down....kudos to you!

[Blinking Lights]

Although it turns out you made the correct play this time I think you're losing money in the long run.

When you are the raiser pf you should almost always follow up your raise with a bet on the flop. By not doing so you allow hands like QJ, A 10, XsXs, etc. a free chance to beat you. Two pair on that board is still a strong hand. I would suggest making a 2/3-3/4 bet on the flop and if you get raised then reevaluate your hand.

You can't be afraid to bet just because you don't have the nuts, if that happens then you will be really predictable and people will fold to every bet you make.

Also, you didn't say what position you were in or what stage of the tournament it was.

Glad it worked out for you this time but I would deffinetly reevaluate the play if I were you.

[Full House]

I would have been tempted to take a big gamble with a hand like that, but I can see why you chose to be a little cautious.

Did you get the impression that other players were being agressive, is that what made you take a cautious stance?

[Avian]

You made the right call that time, but I'm not sure if it would have been a good general stance. I wouldn't have taken a huge gamble on it, but I would have tried to pick up a little bit. A 2 pair is a decent hand.

[kelkat]

This was a good lay down. Sometimes you have to go with your gut even if it goes against the odds. That's what brings a good player to greatness.

[Pimpin]

Nice Lay Down!!

There are so hands out there that have you beat. Even somebody holding K-10 of spades has more outs than you do, and a draw to the absolute nuts. Somebody could have easily flat called your raise with Q-Q. I like your play ( depending on who the bettor is). Pick a better spot to get your chips in. Wasn't it at the WSOP that the chief coined the phrase "two pair no good"??

[mollila]

Originally Posted by Blinking Lights Although it turns out you made the correct play this time I think you're losing money in the long run. When you are the raiser pf you should almost always follow up your raise with a bet on the flop.

I agree with Blinking here, you should have followed up with a bet on the flop.

[Full House]

While there were still a few hands which could have beaten you (and as it turned out, somebody did have a better hand) I would have taken this one on, because of the slim chance of being beaten.

I feel that the probability was in your favour - even though it turned out that you folded at the correct time.

Maybe I need to hold back a little sometimes?

[winningedge]

Also agree with betting on the flop here.. betting is your tool to getting information about the other persons hand and how they react to your bet.. without doing it, its really difficult to know where you stand in the hand

[pinnie]

You have to bet here. You are ahead of many hands and it's a drawy board so you should protect your hand. If you get called then you need to evaluate the situation on turn again and propably hit the breaks there. If the other guy betting on the turn gives you the odds to draw to a full house, feel free to do so

[honest99]

I find that many players tend to call with pretty much any two cards above T. If you assume that a few (2-3) callers have called with that criteria you are beaten VERY often with ONLY two pair when three T+ cards hits the flop. A very dangerous flop! I had KQ once when KQT hit the flop I checked like you but got lucky with a FH on the turn. The guy with a straigt lost all his mony since he also checked the flop and couldn't fold later. :-)

[kimball24]

if you aren't willing to bet out at that flop then you shouldn't raise preflop. flopping 2 pair is about the best you're hoping with kq (strong, but not that strong considering you said "i raised and got a few callers" i'm assuming you were somewhat early position). early position you have to be able to lay down kq. early position, it's not a bad thing to be able to lay down aq. anyway, point is, flopping 2 pair you can't assume someone called your preflop raise with the j10. you have to bet and at least find out, playing as passively as that will cost you much money in the long run, because if someone bets you don't know if it's a steal or a great hand or a random ace. if you bet and get raised at least you have an idea of what's going on.