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Old 14th April 2008, 08:06 AM
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Saw a thread earlier asking for input. So I figured I'd see how my stats look.

This is from a pkerstars 45 plr SNG.

Knocked out 4th, dude had AK & I had KK.
Oh well, guess harrington was right. Just sucks cuz some chipstack sat his way out to 2nd. lmao

During current Hold'em session you were dealt 113 hands and saw flop:
- 9 out of 16 times while in big blind (56%)
- 6 out of 17 times while in small blind (35%)
- 16 out of 80 times in other positions (20%)
- a total of 31 out of 113 (27%)
Pots won at showdown - 4 of 6 (66%)
Pots won without showdown - 13

Let me know what ya think.

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This is for 200 tourneys, about 50 tourney hand history loaded.

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Unfortunately this is waaaay too small a sample size to take anything from
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Unfortunately this is waaaay too small a sample size to take anything from
thats so very true...

guys i think he is asking for a table of like 100 of the same sngs, or somthing similar to that.
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Unfortunately this is waaaay too small a sample size to take anything from
I know it's not a 1000 hand sample. lol.
Just wanted to see what you guys would say about the basic percentages. Given this small group of hands.

So I looked back. lilLady only had 165 sampling. Now I have 437 hand sampling of last 6 45 SNG. 3 placed, 3 did'nt.

437 hands played and saw flop:
- 20 times out of 61 while in small blind (33%)
- 31 times out of 59 while in big blind (53%)
- 58 times out of 317 in other positions (20%)
- a total of 103 times out of 437 (18%)

Pots won at showdown - 18 out of 26 (69%)
Pots won without showdown - 33

Now how about it!?!
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LOL I don't think I posted mine with the same intentions as you have for your post. It was just a random thought I had while playing and thought I'd ask for opinions. Your post is wanting to compare stats with other players....totally different.
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Your post is wanting to compare stats with other players....totally different.
Nope, just wanted people to tell me what they saw. Good, bad, ugly.

I'm just trying to step up my game.
I know that everyone here is pretty much doing the same.
So if someone can look and say "Hey man, ur a lil passive/aggressive here??? Or OMFG, WTF were you doing.!?!"

My son is about stats. I'm about the game. (Well maybe a lil bout the money, I mean who are we kidding)

So no, no competition request. Feel free to not hold any punches. All I ask is honest opinions.
Although, I would'nt mind seeing some other people post thier stats.

I understand your interpreting it in a competitory way, but I was just trying to qualify my sample base.

I've played with a few of you. If you remember me. Hope you guys don't have notes on me. LMAO
So I would'nt mind hearing what you have to say too.
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The problem with these stats are:

1. As before, you need thousands and thousands of hands for it to become meaningful
2. The stats that you get on the poker sites aren't the important ones- need to see how often you call/raise/fold from each of the positions at the table; how often you steal the blinds; how often you fold your blinds to a raise; your aggression factor on flop/turn/river.
Unfortunately no sites provide this - need PokerTracker or similar software.

Basically need looooads of hands. Btw if anyone is interested in PokerTracker, drop me a PM and I'll see what I can do
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Nope, just wanted people to tell me what they saw. Good, bad, ugly.

I'm just trying to step up my game.
I know that everyone here is pretty much doing the same.
So if someone can look and say "Hey man, ur a lil passive/aggressive here??? Or OMFG, WTF were you doing.!?!"

My son is about stats. I'm about the game. (Well maybe a lil bout the money, I mean who are we kidding)

So no, no competition request. Feel free to not hold any punches. All I ask is honest opinions.
Although, I would'nt mind seeing some other people post thier stats.

I understand your interpreting it in a competitory way, but I was just trying to qualify my sample base.

I've played with a few of you. If you remember me. Hope you guys don't have notes on me. LMAO
So I would'nt mind hearing what you have to say too.

Okay it's just that the title of your Thread: Your stats/ My stats suggests that you are wanting to compare...not compete...that's all...it's a little misleading
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It was like a song in my head.
Ur stats...
My stats...
Everybodies stats, stats...

Guess everyone could'nt hear the song. lol
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The problem with these stats are:
hoops brotha hoops

can ya give a man a cracker!?! huh.


I'm working on turning it all into poker tracker now. Might take a lil time.
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Basically need looooads of hands. Btw if anyone is interested in PokerTracker, drop me a PM and I'll see what I can do
U so were'nt kidding. I have an overwhelming plethora of info now.

I still have'nt even finished.

So how about telling me some insides on poker traker, so I know what to look at and for, and what I should post?
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Important stuff: screenshots of the general tab of your tournament database, as well as the position stats
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It was like a song in my head.
Ur stats...
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Everybodies stats, stats...

Guess everyone could'nt hear the song. lol
HAHAHAHAHA wait......I CAN hear it!!! LMAO
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I posted them on the first page.
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Ok I'm guessing here that you play a mix of 6max and full ring tournies. Some things I'd have to say:

1. You're raising nowhere near enough in general - to putting money in with almost 25% of hands, only raising with 4% is just too passive in my opinion.
2. Your attempt to steal blinds is slightly lower than I'd expect. Also looks like as the blinds go up you steal LESS, which is when the blinds become a larger % of your stack - ie more valuable.
3. You complete your SB a lot of the time! You're playing out of position through the whole hand from the blinds, so I'd recommend being a lot tighter out of the blinds. (As an example I fold my blinds ~85% of the time to steals- this being in 6max cash games though)

As a general trend, you should probably reduce the amount of limping you do, and raise more. This is especially useful in position, when a raise and flop bet is going to take down most pots.

Positionally its good that you open up as you get towards the button, but I don't think the 'slope' is pronounced enough. At full ring, under the gun you should be reeeallly tight, something like AJ+, 88+ (~7%) is good, and as a general rule, if you won't raise it, don't limp it! Can be slightly looser at 6max. Should be aiming to get your 'put $ in pot' and 'PF raise' as close as possible.

Also, on the button/cutoff, it really pays to be aggressive, you have position throughout, and can take the initiative with a raise. Your 'raise first in' is REALLY low on the button, if everyone folds to you, pretty much any two cards are worth a raise if the blinds are tight. Even with a bunch of limpers, you can still raise some hands you might limp along with to try to steal(with added benefit of taking it down on the flop too )

Ok kinda long rant, its late here so gonna head to bed, looking forward to hearing some ideas from others,etc
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Na, see this is the stuff I was looking for.

I used to be more successful awhile ago, but took a break. Been a few months getting back into it. I was missing something, and I think it was the preflop bet & just plain bet confidence. Had been lacking in playing my positional advantage too.

Just played won. Finished 4th. Was a stack for the majority of it. Push at the right times, and call the others. Except for the last hand, but hey Good hands, aggressive.

Confidence really does play.

So thanks. If ya have any more to add or if anyone else wants to throw in. I'm good for the chopping.

Also if ya know of any sites that talk more about the stats, and how to apply the info?
I can already see the value of some of the info. Just figuring out the program and what to do with it.
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