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Old 29th July 2008, 07:32 PM
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Default No Rakeback for existing Full Tilt player

I just wanted to say i hope all full tilt players who are unable to get rakeback eventually leave the site for good and teach full tilt a lesson for not treating all its players equally and ripping off non rakeback players.
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Old 29th July 2008, 08:50 PM
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Almost any computer program uses a Primary key to uniqley identify something. In this case being a person.
Your name itself is a crappy primary key and will probably never be used since believe it or not someone else with exact same name is probably alive on earth. where as Your Email or credit card num social insurance ect are all unique and wont have a secound instance like a name can. This is how they know who you are.

All you need to do is make a new account with full tilt using a differnt Email account name.
Use Hotmail and open a new account. Now follow the instructions Rakeback has to Join using your new hotmail account as your email. (to sign up at full tilt not rakeback, Keep your existing rakeback info the same)
Use a differnt payment method. If you used a credit card than dont use that Exact same credit card num. You can get a brand new card that is pay as you go type card which should work fine or money order Ect. Try really hard to find a differnt mailing address like persay your brother\sister or a trusted friend. Changing your birthdate up a little bit is advised. Persay you were born in 71 say it was 69. A little white lie yes, But where not doing anything REALLY bad here, Just getting what they should honestly truly offer anyway. but when you cash a check they dont put your birth year on it just the name. ( if all else fails get someone to open an account for you that trusts you, but doesnt play themselves)

I had exact same problem than did this. I am happy to say worked great and Rakeback has kept me in the game a couple times when I lost before

If you feel bad dont (just don't sign up for the new depositors bonus. They deduct it from your Rakeback account anyway so no biggie you still get the same $.)

Go get em tiger. Could be a Nice person and say I referred you when signing up since technically I am (through rakeback I mean).
Woohoo bonus for me. no penalty at all for you.

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Hey thanks for the advice. Were you still able to use the same name and address you used for your previous account or did you have to put it in somebody else's name?
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Old 29th July 2008, 10:08 PM
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Default Changed it up a bit

You do want to use your same name since you might want to cash the check. But I did have to switch up my address and a couple little things like birthdate. But again Im not ROBBING fort knox or Spying for the Chinese or anything im just trying to get rakeback, and the only thing on the check will be your name that is most important. Using the same name and address is a little bit of a heatbag on yourself though ( Increases the odds that it might not work) Since now they have two secoundary information fields that are the same. A name can have more than one person attached to it, But an address is also a very unique piece of information. Also the same name and birthdate might send RED flags, I used to do information systems programming (data bases) so know a bit about the way they look information up.


Again these are little white lies, But there is no malice or criminal intent involved. Just trying to get what they should offer you anyway.
Im sure every one knows someone that doesn't mind if a bit of mail gets sent to thier address for a friend, ESPECIALLY if its probably a check from a poker site. Beers on you then.

I still used my name though
It's a bit of a hassle yes. But to get rakeback was truly worth it.
Rakeback is the best thing to happen to poker players like us.
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Wow.....um, I'm pretty sure according to Rakeback's rules and regulations that you can/will be banned for something like this.....

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5. Can I get rakeback to a poker room where I already have an account?

No. Our rakeback loyalty programs are for new accounts only, unless stated otherwise. Why? See the 9. Where rakeback payments come from? section further down this page for explanation.

9. Where rakeback payments come from?
Rakeback.com has signed an affiliate contract with each respective rakeback poker room. We agree to refer new players to these poker rooms, and they in turn will pay Rakeback.com a share of the lifetime profit that our players generate. The rakeback loyalty payments are made from this commission we get for referring loyal customers to their poker room. Since the poker rooms know exactly how much rake you generate, we are able to pay you rakeback accordingly.

So in effect you pay rake to the poker room, the poker room pays Rakeback.com a part of your rake as commission, and we will in turn pay you rakeback from our commission.

Since we only get commission on players that register a new account to a poker room with our link/code, we unfortunately cannot pay rakeback to players with an existing account at the poker room.

6. Can't I just open another account for rakeback?
No. Opening more than one account with same personal details is not allowed by poker rooms.


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I hope they dont. But its truly not my fault that I never knew about rakeback before opening an account.

No matter what full tilt will lose $ if I do because Ill never play there again. Sure my birth year is a little off but the money I spend is real.

Even xdragon was never going to play there again. Now he actually might. which means they make $ off him also. If he quits they make nothing. A percentage of something is better than nothing at all. Im no criminal just a poker player.
Although I do steal an ocassional pot.

at least im not a hacker.

Just calling a a
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You're very right...I actually learned about rakeback thru an advertisement in the chat box while playing on Full Tilt. But they offer enough other sites that I see no reason why someone would want to risk losing all their accounts to play on one specific site.

And yes, Full Tilt is losing out by people leaving their site....that is why they need something like this to keep the new people coming in. I left Full Tilt alone a long time ago.


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The main reason i wanted to get rakeback on Full Tilt as apposed to other sites where i already have a rakeback deal is that they are the only site which offers capped PLO games which are my favorite and most profitable game. As for opening another full tilt account, i'd be a little worried about them recognising my computers IP address.
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All you need to do is make a new account with full tilt using a differnt Email account name.
That is against Full Tilt terms and conditions, and leads to getting your account banned. No player is allowed to open a second personal account.
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i noticed this post and find it strange that a senior member would admit openley to opening up a second account even though its against the ftp policy but yeh

there r tons of other sites u can join to get rakeback so why jepodise your account and money on one site
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