My Full Tilt Rake Tracking error?

[Ryzant]

Not really sure how to say my problem but here I go...

When I check my Rake Tracking for the month of June, I saw the I was -$0.36 total in deductions (although when I added them manually it should have equaled -$0.35). Anyways, These deductions occured from June 25th through the 28th. Then I looked at the bottom it stated that it was due to "Player Added". I only played "The Ferguson", which is a $1.00+$0 $500 guarantee, on the 28th. The prize pool went beyond the guarantee ($1,222 total prize pool). I know they are just a few cents but I just want to know why I had deductions from the date of June 25 untill June 28th.

Sorry for the long and grammatically incorrect post. I just want to know what is happening.

Thank very much

[gamer4life27]

Most of the time, when you have a negative rakeback from fulltiltpoker, it is usually occured from purchasing something with your FTP's (Full Tilt Points).

[tony]

Hi Ryzant,

If you registered on 25th to this tourney then the deduction might start from this day. It does not matter so much, cause it could be also the deduction for only 28th and the amount for this day will be -$0.36.

[Ryzant]

Im not really sure why I am getting these deductions in the first place. I have actually only played 2 tournaments. One on the 28th of June and the other on the 4th of July. They were both $1.00+$0 and both doubled their guarantee, I registered both of them a few minutes before they began, and I did not purchase any items because I have not made any Full Tilt Points. I just want to know, if there is any precise way of knowing, why I had these deductions.

[mollila]

Originally Posted by Ryzant Im not really sure why I am getting these deductions in the first place. I have actually only played 2 tournaments. One on the 28th of June and the other on the 4th of July. They were both $1.00+$0 and both doubled their guarantee, I registered both of them a few minutes before they began, and I did not purchase any items because I have not made any Full Tilt Points. I just want to know, if there is any precise way of knowing, why I had these deductions.

The deductions are all under Player Added, and this is as detailed information about rakeback Full Tilt shares with us. If you want to know which tournaments are in question, you could try asking their support.

Player Added is money that Full Tilt adds to tournaments that are not covered by entrance fees. This money is distributed evenly among the tournament participants.

[Boilermaker]

happens with full tilt alot, i've had player added deductions even the months i didnt play on full tilt, go figure.
I started this month in the negative do to player added fees, i guess i should keep better logs. but full tilt would just find another excuse for a deduction.

[Ryzant]

well.. Got deducted again -$0.04 in player added again this time on July 4... Still don't know why its happening.. I only played SNG so there was no way a guarantee wasn't made. Maybe Full Tilt deducts player when a guarantee isn't made. Still wonder why getting these player added deductions. I know it isn't Rakeback's fault. Anyways thanks for all the input gu

[Ryzant]

The fact that I was getting these deductions really did bug me. I tried to figure out why I was recieving these deductions. So I decided to investigate what was happening. I sat in front of my computer looking through my rake tracking and my tournament history for 5 minutes. It was then that I noticed that I had a -$2.10 deductions on the 6th of July. I wondered to myself, "Why such a big deduction on this day?" Then I realized that I played the Fantasy Freeroll #40. I divided the prizepool with the number of entrants and i got about $2.08. But I was still short $0.02. I looked again and found that I also played the Early Doubles Satellite. So I looked into my -0.04 deduction on the 4th of July. I played a $100 Freeroll that day. Then I punched the numbers of that in the calculator and got approximately $0.04 ($100/2700=0.037037037...). The mystery is solved. The reason for my deductions in June and July was because I played Freerolls.

I therefore conclude that the Freerolls caused my deductions. Although they may seem like minute deductions, but, for a player like me who has a very small bankroll, it just seems like I would never get any rakeback ... So for those of you playing at Full Tilt, Freerolls are considered guarantees and would count as "Player Added" deductions on your rakeback.

*This was just based on my personal investigations. So I am not really sure this is what caused my deductions


Hehe... Sorry for wasting your valuable time and making those of you read my post. I just felt like I had to share this. And once again I apologize for my bad grammar and spelling.

[Boilermaker]

Originally Posted by Ryzant The fact that I was getting these deductions really did bug me. I tried to figure out why I was recieving these deductions. So I decided to investigate what was happening. I sat in front of my computer looking through my rake tracking and my tournament history for 5 minutes. It was then that I noticed that I had a -$2.10 deductions on the 6th of July. I wondered to myself, "Why such a big deduction on this day?" Then I realized that I played the Fantasy Freeroll #40. I divided the prizepool with the number of entrants and i got about $2.08. But I was still short $0.02. I looked again and found that I also played the Early Doubles Satellite. So I looked into my -0.04 deduction on the 4th of July. I played a $100 Freeroll that day. Then I punched the numbers of that in the calculator and got approximately $0.04 ($100/2700=0.037037037...). The mystery is solved. The reason for my deductions in June and July was because I played Freerolls. I therefore conclude that the Freerolls caused my deductions. Although they may seem like minute deductions, but, for a player like me who has a very small bankroll, it just seems like I would never get any rakeback ... So for those of you playing at Full Tilt, Freerolls are considered guarantees and would count as "Player Added" deductions on your rakeback. [size="1"]*This was just based on my personal investigations. So I am not really sure this is what caused my deductions[SIZE] Hehe... Sorry for wasting your valuable time and making those of you read my post. I just felt like I had to share this. And once again I apologize for my bad grammar and spelling.

Thanks my friend, you solved the mystery for the both of us.... Thanks for updating us.

[frob23]

Man, stuff like this makes me grateful for the simplicity of Nordica. They may not get rakeback for tournament buy-ins but at least they're not subtracting pennies for freerolls or other funny stuff like this.

I don't have the attention span to worry about them subtracting $1 or something because I played in a freeroll.

[liladypokerpro]

Yep I agree, Frob. Full Tilt will nickel and dime you to death if you let them That's why we play at Poker Nordica, and say pashaw to Full Tilt haha