Rakeback Community Tour #5 @ Pokerstars, Sunday Oct 21, $500 freeroll + $100 bounty!

[mollila]

mocropoker2 knocked out second break chipleader 121216 to 11th place, and wins the $50 bounty.

PokerStars Game #12764694743: Tournament #64132575, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (4000/8000) - 2007/10/21 - 17:14:55 (ET)
Table '64132575 35' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: rdr910 (87088 in chips)
Seat 4: 121216 (43143 in chips)
Seat 5: Falken11x (228073 in chips)
Seat 6: annabeall (85128 in chips)
Seat 7: mocropoker2 (336149 in chips)
Seat 8: Ch1uh@n (211814 in chips)
rdr910: posts the ante 400
121216: posts the ante 400
Falken11x: posts the ante 400
annabeall: posts the ante 400
mocropoker2: posts the ante 400
Ch1uh@n: posts the ante 400
121216: posts small blind 4000
Falken11x: posts big blind 8000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
annabeall: folds
mocropoker2: raises 8000 to 16000
Ch1uh@n: folds
rdr910: folds
121216 said, "GL, send me some when you win mocro"
121216: raises 26743 to 42743 and is all-in
Falken11x: folds
mocropoker2: calls 26743
*** FLOP *** [Th Qc 2h]
mocropoker2 said, "lol"
*** TURN *** [Th Qc 2h] [9d]
*** RIVER *** [Th Qc 2h 9d] [Qd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
121216: shows [Js As] (a pair of Queens)
mocropoker2: shows [Ks Ts] (two pair, Queens and Tens)
mocropoker2 collected 95886 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 95886 | Rake 0
Board [Th Qc 2h 9d Qd]
Seat 1: rdr910 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: 121216 (small blind) showed [Js As] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: Falken11x (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: annabeall folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: mocropoker2 showed [Ks Ts] and won (95886) with two pair, Queens and Tens
Seat 8: Ch1uh@n folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[mollila]

swed1928 is the winner, and brankin1 second. Congratulations to all winners.

PokerStars Game #12765634652: Tournament #64132575, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level XIX (15000/30000) - 2007/10/21 - 18:03:50 (ET)
Table '64132575 35' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: brankin1 (144077 in chips)
Seat 4: swed1928 (2000923 in chips)
brankin1: posts the ante 1500
swed1928: posts the ante 1500
brankin1: posts small blind 15000
swed1928: posts big blind 30000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
brankin1: raises 112577 to 142577 and is all-in
swed1928: calls 112577
*** FLOP *** [7h Kc 7d]
brankin1 said, "gg"
*** TURN *** [7h Kc 7d] [Qs]
swed1928 said, "its over"
*** RIVER *** [7h Kc 7d Qs] [5h]
swed1928 said, "gg"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
swed1928: shows [Ah Kh] (two pair, Kings and Sevens)
brankin1: shows [Td 8s] (a pair of Sevens)
brankin1 said, "vgg"
brankin1 said, "wp"
swed1928 collected 288154 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 288154 | Rake 0
Board [7h Kc 7d Qs 5h]
Seat 3: brankin1 (button) (small blind) showed [Td 8s] and lost with a pair of Sevens
Seat 4: swed1928 (big blind) showed [Ah Kh] and won (288154) with two pair, Kings and Sevens

[aussieharro]

congrats swed

now when will community tour #6 be?

[brankin1]

hey everyone. thanks to all the railbirds who were watching the final table :] congrats to swed as well. see you at the next freeroll

[MMx2000]

congrats all winers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

[furlano62]

congrats swed on your win and gg to all the rest of the players that played.

[falconstrack]

Thanx guys, was a very fun tourney and im glad my first tourney on this forum was a nice win, see way next weekend or for comunity tour 6

[p0kertime]

nice win swede

[Falken11x]

If was a good evening!! Up to the coming play!!
Gruss Falken11x

[Echeneis81]

So PokerPro gets criticized for playing with 30+ account and swed1928/3939/4141 gets praise for winning with one of his 3 accounts

In that case: congrats to swed for being more subtle in his cheating.

1st place should've been Brankin's.

[mollila]

Originally Posted by Echeneis81 So PokerPro gets criticized for playing with 30+ account and swed1928/3939/4141 gets praise for winning with one of his 3 accounts

PokerPro was a clear case of multiple accounts, but how could we know swed1928 would be related to other accounts? That would be up to Pokerstars review, if someone submits a report. But we cannot go accusing players for cheating without proof.

[grndizzle]

i figured the fix was in

[falconstrack]

I just got note of this. I do not know of swed3939 or swed4141.

What i CAN say is that with about 4 tables remaining i was moved to the same table as swed4141 and we were BOTH sitting IN and playing.

I do not know of who these other two players are but i do know that they are not me, and can be proved as we were at the same table at the same time both playing our cards at the same time.

[Echeneis81]

OK. I probably shouldn't bother. It was only a free roll after all. But let me explain the reason for my suspicions.

What i CAN say is that with about 4 tables remaining i was moved to the same table as swed4141 and we were BOTH sitting IN and playing.

I was at the same table and since we were in the money I did my usual player profiling using sites like PokerDB & Offical Poker Rankings.
It turned out that you had played your first 5 tournaments (multi table sit'n'goes) the previous day (Oct 20th). Swed4141 had no registered tournaments so I'm assuming that was a new accout.
With PokerPro in the back of my head I checked swed3939 and he showed only one tounament (, on Oct 20th - start time ~ 1/2 hour after you finished your last tournament ends).

So let me summarize my thoughts:
- Out of the huge PokerStars player community your three accounts were the only ones
with the swedXXXX naming pattern that I could find using PokerDB.
- All three of you seem to have joined PokerStars at the same time (weekend
Oct 20-21).
- All three of you end up in the same Private Freeroll.
- I'm a gambling addict and I do believe in chance, but I cannot believe that that's
coincidence. Way more unlikely than hitting the jackpot in any game of chance that I
know of.
- With reports of multi-account scams on PokerStars to be found on any Poker
forum/news page, and with PokerPro clumsy attempt giving an example, I think it's far
more likely that you are a cheater.

I do not know of who these other two players are but i do know that they are not me, and can be proved as we were at the same table at the same time both playing our cards at the same time.

Yes. Playing several accounts at the same time is the basic idea behind the multi account scam.
The only pot where both of you played was a three way pot. (I do have the hand history for that table.)

[Echeneis81]

Originally Posted by mollila PokerPro was a clear case of multiple accounts, but how could we know swed1928 would be related to other accounts? That would be up to Pokerstars review, if someone submits a report. But we cannot go accusing players for cheating without proof.

I'm sorry. I'm being pedantic about this. It's certainly not my job to play poker police. After this post I'll let the matter drop. It was just really annoying to see swedXXXX win after finding the evidence described in the above post. I certainly won't bother to submit a report to PS, unless falcenstrack demands to be cleared of my allegations. If he does I'm obviously obliged to do so.

I'm certainly not happy about the way I introduced myself to this forum.