Let there be proof of the suckage! [March Graphs Thread]

[frob23]

As there was a request for graphs to be posted, I am going to do just that. I am sucking rather hard this month. And my graph reflects it. Anyone else who wants to share their graphs during the month (or after) feel free to chime in. I love looking at graphs... I am a dork like that.


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I am apparently playing the part of "rakeback grinder" this month. Breaking even at the tables (actually dead even, the graph shows me down a buy-in but it borked out during the end of a session and is down $10.01 more than I actually am)... but making out like a bandit with rakeback ($124ish so far this month).

God look at that... that is suck. I am apparently the site's best pay off artist. All someone has to do is hit a hand and I'll give them my stack.

But when I feel bad... I just look at this person's graph. This is just for this month and it's a smallish sample (3k hands) but based on his stats and how poorly he plays post-flop, I expect it's not due to variance.


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Look at that! Now that makes me feel better. Whenever I am running bad, I think I will put up that graph on my other screen to make me feel better about my game. LOL

[travz21]

Sick redline.

[iHazSkills]

What is there not to love about March That's a rare time that I'm above Allin EV.
That bottom 2NL graph is really sick, I imagine though playing tourneys he could be breakeven.

[DannyG13]

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First half finishing off NL10, second half not so great shots at NL25. + Volume fail means I really need to pick up the pace for the rest of March.

[grimReaper]

What is there not to love about March That's a rare time that I'm above Allin EV.
That bottom 2NL graph is really sick, I imagine though playing tourneys he could be breakeven.

36 bi in 10k hands?! This has to be the sickest heater I've ever seen. Nice!

[frob23]

What is there not to love about March That's a rare time that I'm above Allin EV.
That bottom 2NL graph is really sick, I imagine though playing tourneys he could be breakeven.

Now that's a good run! I am working on turning my downswing around... I need that sort of run. For the month, I think I am $50-$60 under all-in EV. People love to get all-in on the flop with just a bare draw (like an open-ended straight draw or flush draw) when I have an over-pair or set. Normally, I love this. But not this month because it seems they hit 2/3rds of the time instead of the normal 1/3rd.

The second graph in my post was at 10nl... not 2nl. It would be uber sick at 2nl that would be like 63 buy-ins in 3k hands. As it is, it is like 12.5 buy-ins.

Yes, he could be making it up in tournaments except merge is pretty small and there aren't a whole lot of tournaments running. And, he is pretty terrible... so I would be shocked if he was a winning tournament player. This isn't one day either... where he could have been tilting. This is 7 days of play, all consistently bad.

[frob23]

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First half finishing off NL10, second half not so great shots at NL25. + Volume fail means I really need to pick up the pace for the rest of March.

If this is your first time taking shots at 25nl, breaking even is pretty good. When I first started taking shots there, I had to adjust to several things the players were doing and took some downswings at the start. I should go back up to 25nl, I tend to be a stronger winner there. My main issue right now if I am working on getting used to playing 6-10 tables (usually 6-8) instead of 3-4. And sitting with $100 of my bankroll on the tables is less "threatening" mentally than sitting with $250 on them. Also, playing 10 tables of 25nl is probably not +EV at the moment since I usually need to think a little more about decisions.

[Hakimakli]

For me, march works fine so far. Gonna put some Volume in my hands now. Played not very much

[DannyG13]

If this is your first time taking shots at 25nl, breaking even is pretty good. When I first started taking shots there, I had to adjust to several things the players were doing and took some downswings at the start. I should go back up to 25nl, I tend to be a stronger winner there. My main issue right now if I am working on getting used to playing 6-10 tables (usually 6-8) instead of 3-4. And sitting with $100 of my bankroll on the tables is less "threatening" mentally than sitting with $250 on them. Also, playing 10 tables of 25nl is probably not +EV at the moment since I usually need to think a little more about decisions.

Yeah you're right, thanks for that.

I think my main problem was number of tables tbh. I've been 16+ tabling NL10 last few weeks, and when I decided to take shots at NL25 I opened 12 tables straight up and went for it, followed by 16 NL25 tables next session. Should be very happy with breakeven (well, actually -$19 down for NL25 over 4.7k hands) playing so many tables when shot taking lol, really need to reduce that.

[Squawk]

$12.53 in rakeback, all at 5nl

[Squawk]

Alright own up, who put my cards in the fridge?

[iHazSkills]

36 bi in 10k hands?! This has to be the sickest heater I've ever seen. Nice!

Yeah that's pretty much double my usual winrate, having some serious fun playing poker making sets every third pair

The second graph in my post was at 10nl... not 2nl. It would be uber sick at 2nl that would be like 63 buy-ins in 3k hands. As it is, it is like 12.5 buy-ins.

Yes, he could be making it up in tournaments except merge is pretty small and there aren't a whole lot of tournaments running. And, he is pretty terrible... so I would be shocked if he was a winning tournament player. This isn't one day either... where he could have been tilting. This is 7 days of play, all consistently bad.

Don't worry good times will come, my current run is happening after recovering from a 10BI downswing when i was running 4BI under ALLin EV.
Dk how I managed to confuse the stakes
By saying he could be breakeven I was just making fun of the bigger luck factor of tournaments compared to cash games I started poker as a tourney player, but only play an occasional tourney once a month nowadays.

[grimReaper]

Yeah that's pretty much double my usual winrate, having some serious fun playing poker making sets every third pair

You're usual winrate is 18 bb/100?

[frob23]

Don't worry good times will come, my current run is happening after recovering from a 10BI downswing when i was running 4BI under ALLin EV.
Dk how I managed to confuse the stakes
By saying he could be breakeven I was just making fun of the bigger luck factor of tournaments compared to cash games I started poker as a tourney player, but only play an occasional tourney once a month nowadays.

I am hoping good times don't come for him. LOL... he's one of the people I profit from nicely at the tables.

In my graph, I have a couple drops of way more than 10BI... and at one point I was 7-8BI under EV... but I rarely look at that line because I find it mostly meaningless. If I get all-in pre-flop against a guy with a 3-bet of 18%... and I have KK and he has AA... my EV line doesn't properly show that I got in ahead of his range. And when I get in good but lose anyway, that doesn't mean I made a good call... it might have been a horrible call and I ended up catching him at the bottom of his shoving range.

[iHazSkills]

You're usual winrate is 18 bb/100?

That's PKR (site) for you Keep in mind I only play 6 tables, because of the software 9 is max, but that's hardly possible, as you have to manually check your cards...

[travz21]

We have a 9BB/100 longterm winner in this thread. It's been confirmed.

[iHazSkills]

We have a 9BB/100 longterm winner in this thread. It's been confirmed.

I guess it kind of looks like a brag now that I read it again, but whatever...
Been running like that since pretty much moving up to 25NL, although it's actually 8BB/100 for the past year, 9BB/100 since 2011. 10NL and 4NL was pretty much the same, 50NL - will be taking shots soon.

[grimReaper]

Why are we talking in years? What's the actual sample size?

[iHazSkills]

Why are we talking in years? What's the actual sample size?

It's 60k-ish total for 25NL, so it's more of a shortterm winrate, obviously I won't ever get to 1m hands to know a precise winrate, but would happily post results every week/month seeing as this got so much interest.

[grimReaper]

It's 60k-ish total for 25NL, so it's more of a shortterm winrate, obviously I won't ever get to 1m hands to know a precise winrate, but would happily post results every week/month seeing as this got so much interest.

18bb/100 over 60k hands at 25NL? That's extraordinarily good, graphs or it didn't happen.