Full Tilt river cards chasers!

[FundelMental]

seems the last week on ftp i have had muitible bad beats do to people willing to committ all there chips to hit a magic river card ;( . in the $2.20 sng and $1 ferguson i have had up to 5 river bad beats in one game i take screen shots of them.so my pc is getting quite full now. has anyone else noticed this type of thing ?its allmost like they know what river cards is coming, they have no str8,flush,draw or even a pair, and have hand like K-J and are willing to call bets as big as 3000,3000 then 13,000 chips with out hesition , then hit the magic river its makeing me sick,anyone else noticed this?

[crkdog]

I have seen the same thing happen... I h\get frustrated and begin to wonder abolut what that player can see

[emoneypitt]

Do you keep your hand histories? Can you show a couple examples?

[grndizzle]

i have an account on multiple sites, so when I'm running bad on one I'll switch to another for awhile.

[cdmaster1]

It happens to me all the time too, mostly against the big stack. Almost always they catch on the river.

[FundelMental]

Do you keep your hand histories? Can you show a couple examples?

if only i could paste screen shots here ;( i cant tell the bloqs there in because it would not be fair to this community? but if you wanna see pm me ill be glad to show you many screen shots of pokerstars & full tilt river bad beats.and as far as hand history ill post one here later.

[FundelMental]

if only i could paste screen shots here ;( i cant tell the bloqs there in because it would not be fair to this community? but if you wanna see pm me ill be glad to show you many screen shots of pokerstars & full tilt river bad beats.and as far as hand history ill post one here later.

PokerStars Game #14185866593: Tournament #72005853, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/12/29 - 18:11:08 (ET)
Table '72005853 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: riverdraw55 (1760 in chips)
Seat 2: nOrth~~mOOns (2200 in chips)
Seat 3: FundelMental (2300 in chips)
Seat 4: KataDog (1010 in chips)
Seat 5: deadmen (1360 in chips)
Seat 6: JokerFace963 (580 in chips)
Seat 7: BEZ227 (1470 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: DO_SUN07 (1420 in chips)
Seat 9: Jonner85 (1400 in chips)
Jonner85: posts small blind 10
riverdraw55: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FundelMental
KataDog said, "wow"
KataDog said, "great play"
nOrth~~mOOns: raises 80 to 100
FundelMental: raises 1160 to 1260
KataDog: calls 1010 and is all-in
deadmen: folds
JokerFace963: folds
BEZ227: folds
DO_SUN07: folds
Jonner85: folds
riverdraw55: folds
nOrth~~mOOns: raises 940 to 2200 and is all-in
FundelMental: calls 940
FundelMental said, "AA?"
*** FLOP ***
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
nOrth~~mOOns: shows (two pair, Aces and Tens)
FundelMental: shows (a pair of Kings)
nOrth~~mOOns collected 2380 from side pot
KataDog: shows (a pair of Jacks)
nOrth~~mOOns collected 3060 from main pot
BEZ227 has returned
JokerFace963 said, "nh"
FundelMental said, "riverd"
FundelMental said, gg
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5440 Main pot 3060. Side pot 2380. | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: riverdraw55 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: nOrth~~mOOns showed and won (5440) with two pair, Aces and Tens
Seat 3: FundelMental showed and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: KataDog showed and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 5: deadmen folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: JokerFace963 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: BEZ227 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: DO_SUN07 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Jonner85 (small blind) folded before Flop

[tree-saw]

it's moments like that which cause me to question the integrity of the game and why I even play online....

[IFixlexus]

let's not forget the fact that you are playing $4 sngs. You cant expect top notch play at that level man.

[123bird]

I agree it happens to much to be a coincidence

[pnpn]

Hey, so happy you spoke of this! I know logically that the cards run even. However at FTP, its as if they let me win for a day and then...bang... bad beat after bad beat. ex: all in A10 against A8...guess what 8 on the river...KK against 77..he flops a 7. Now there's something new going on...every time I get a good hand and bet strong guess what...I am against AA...yup, Also, 1 day of good cards, and then 50% of my dealt hands have 2s or 3s in them .... I've counted 50% ! This has occered many times and always follows one day of good luck..
I originally wanted to ask if anyone out there thinks that these site are fixed...If the cards run even, what is happening to me is impossible because its the same cydrome in a 5 day cycle for the last 6 months.
I hope someone responds, I am trying hard not to TILT !
Thanks,
PN

[steelman25]

yeah i have noticed the exact same thing and i to thought it was just me being a bad loser but some answers to wether this is set up or not would be nice

[I Eat Gamblers]

i've run into that alot lately, not just FT!! so like many others i take a break from that site and play at another.

[FundelMental]

Do you keep your hand histories? Can you show a couple examples?

yes i can post some here ill post some later but theres way to many trust me ;(

[FundelMental]

let's not forget the fact that you are playing $4 sngs. You cant expect top notch play at that level man.

beleave me i can post some full tilt buy in of $11 dollers as well like the midnightmadness games or the 28k gurented ill hunt some down.

[litfpitr]

Where's the bad beat??? Yea you had KK but are you trying to say every time someone has a pocket pair its a bad beat if they lose??? Hand history is not complete but it looks to me like all of you over played your hands and the A-10 got lucky...

[TheSavage85]

All in with Ace 10? Very bad play...

I know...i'll put my tournament life on the life with a medium hand in a coin flip.

[pnpn]

You guys are not understanding what I say. You pick the one or two examples I give and tear them down....that's easy. Now, listen...these thing have been happening for 6 months on a regular cycle. As well to say you can't go all in with A10 is wrong as you must see the hand in context...it was correct and I called it correct as he had A8...I was right, it was not a donk move....which by the way I have and still make...but that's not the point. The point is this happens on a regular basis and in a regular cycle for the last 6 months. Every time I get up to $124...boom the bad cycle hits. What I want to knowis if it is happening to anyone else on a regular basis...maybe I'm just paranoid.
pnpn

[Onadar]

heh i hear you, i don't have the hand history but here is one. .01/.02 table
hand QQ, i raise to .10, get rereaised to 0.20 everyone folds so i am heads up with raiser, i call
flop come Q99 full house, i raise to .20 he reraises to .40, i call
turn 6 he is allin now, i call
river A
his cards AA, takes the pot with AAA99

i say ack, bit of a suckout there
guy is a professor and tells me how i was dominated preflop, i was outplayed, i am a fish donkey. i said to him you do realize you just caught a 4% draw, he leaves the table. preflop i raise so that money is already gone. 5 limpers plus what i put in, 0.40 in there all i have to call is .10 heads up. 4/1 on money with pocket aces apparently is a bonehead play. made hand against a 2 out draw, and i am the fish.

[Onadar]

reread that i meant to say i had a 4/1 call to make with pocket queens not aces