View Poll Results: Call or Fold?

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  1. #1

    Default Call with 4 All In?

    Okay, here's something for you all to argue over LOL

    ***This is just made-up for your entertainment, so don't bite my head off about it, okay?? LOL


    ******PS THE TITLE SHOULD SAY "THREE ALL IN," NOT FOUR...******


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    Imagine this:

    You are in a regular tournament which has passed the first break. No rebuys, no add ons, nothing left...just what's in front of you...

    You are at a 9 seat table, with 8 players seated. You've been at this same table for about an hour. You have seen that this has been an extremely tight table, and you have noticed NO distinguishable bluffs or bad hands played by the players at this table. The blind levels are 150/300.

    Seat 1 has: 5800 in chips
    Seat 2 has: 4300 in chips
    Seat 3 has: 4350 in chips
    Seat 4 has: 5890 in chips
    Seat 5 has: 6440 in chips
    Seat 6 has: 4660 in chips (D)
    Seat 7 has: 3425 in chips (SB)
    Seat 8 has: 2360 in chips (BB)

    You are the player in Seat 7...

    Now...the cards are dealt, and you receive JJ...

    Seat 1: Folds
    Seat 2: Raises to ALL IN
    Seat 3: Calls 4300
    Seat 4: Folds
    Seat 5: Calls 4300
    Seat 6: Folds
    Seat 7: (?????????)
    Seat 8: We Will Assume Folds

    Given that 1 Player has gone ALL IN, and 2 other Players have CALLED, what would you do with your JJ ?

    Would you expect, that since this has been an extremely tight table, that just perhaps, they may all have each other's outs, and therefore go ALL IN with your JJ ?

    Or would you quickly fold your JJ and wait for a "better ALL IN worthy" hand, being sure to consider that the blinds are catching up with your stack?

    HAVE FUN WITH THIS!
    I see you talking but all I hear is blah blah blah

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    Easy fold.

    I would even doubt wheter it's EV+ to call with Aces here... say you are a 80% favorite against everyone alone... means they all have 20% chance to beat you... so I think your chances of winning are less than 50% with aces against 3 players.

    In this situation, I would fold everything up to kings. I would only give Aces a chance, and hope for the best.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FranklyMrShankly View Post
    I would even doubt wheter it's EV+ to call with Aces here
    You happen to be smoking something? :P Its +EV if your equity is greater than your contribution to the pot, which is ALWAYS the case when you hold aces...

    As to the original question, I reckon JJ I fold quite easily here fold, QQ I have to think about, KK-AA I snapcall. I think I'll call with QQ+ here

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    Incredible same hands happened to me yesterday: 50R stars, blind 15-30 UTG +2 allin 3000, utg+2 call, I call with JJ 3000, BTn call...

    utg+1 66
    utg+2 88
    I--- JJ
    BYN AKs


    this crazy only call because of rebuy tourney and players wanto to make a big stack ang gamble a lot ( like calling all in with 44 hoping in a flip)...

    In freezout easy laydown of Ak, call with QQ+

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishpkr View Post
    You happen to be smoking something? :P Its +EV if your equity is greater than your contribution to the pot, which is ALWAYS the case when you hold aces...

    As to the original question, I reckon JJ I fold quite easily here fold, QQ I have to think about, KK-AA I snapcall. I think I'll call with QQ+ here
    It might be EV+ on the long term, but against so many players your chance of winning is less than 50%, assuming the hand is gonna be played till the end (which is the case).

    If I am on the bubble, I seriously consider folding KK here. As I said, I would call with AA, but wouldn't be to happy to make that move.

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    If Fulltilt? ALLIN FTW!!!! HAHAHAHAHA .. no actually a 2 3 offsuit is the winning hand on fulltilt !
    POKER CHAMP

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    insta snap fold, not even a question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishpkr View Post
    You happen to be smoking something? :P Its +EV if your equity is greater than your contribution to the pot, which is ALWAYS the case when you hold aces...

    As to the original question, I reckon JJ I fold quite easily here fold, QQ I have to think about, KK-AA I snapcall. I think I'll call with QQ+ here



    +1

    but I fold the QQ easy here

    The reason to play the AA and KK is long term you will make money in this situation and when you win the pot you will have quadrupled or quintupled up and you will be in a great spot to win the tourney. But even with AA and KK I'm sure you are less than 50% against ALL players to take down THIS pot.

    I fold AA and KK here as well if it's a satellite and I'm pretty sure I can fold my way past the bubble. - I know that's not the question.

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