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  1. #1
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    Default Something that annoys me to no end

    Ya, a short time, I had a really bad run because of personal issues/ bankroll management problems and my sharkscope looks like the housing market, tanked. But don't assume that because someone is REALLY NEGATIVE on the money side, that they are a donk, they are weak, the most horrible player you ever seen.

    It aggervates me to NO END when I am in a heads up game, and I am beating the fire out of someone and they say "Oh I see your negative bunches of money, why do you play poker if you lose soo much and give people your money? your just a f***king donkey"

    These people should be steralized! and all their chips given to me

    btw, I am 11-0 against people like that this week.

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    Something that annoys me is when people say they have had a bad run of cards, yet, they are winning that SnG, Ring Game, or MTT. They are playing like a donk, and they act all suprised.
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    Why would it bother you that someone thinks that you are a horrible poker player? I mean, I just don't see why it would matter to you one way or another. Besides, there's the huge plus side that they think you're a fish, and you get their money all the more easily.
    Limit poker is a science, but no-limit is an art. In limit you are shooting at a target. In no-limit, the target comes alive and shoots back at you.

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    Exactly.

    Bty, if your a big bully to girls and think they shouldn't be at the table, and play like people think against you Wyte, thats how most women take out the guys. Many guys think like that about the girls, and the guys always end up losing if the girls know what there doing. So think of as a good thing.
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    I once played a $5 sit and go where I swore the game was impossible. I could not believe how tight the table was and how narrow the range of their bets and calls were. I was certain half the table was made up of sharks. Aside from a couple players who went out fairly quickly (for this tournament that was level 5-6 because they couldn't get all-in action)... I was the maniac at the table. When I have the LAG image, you know something is up.

    After battling it out... sure they were all super-strong opponents... I finally won. I decided to go look them up on sharkscope to see how good they really were. Of the last 5 people on the table with me... not one had an average ROI of better than -35% .... they were all FISH.

    Looking back, it makes sense. They were TOO tight to be very successful in sit and gos. If they weren't able to hit the perfect hands and perfect flops... they were just going to blind themselves out.

    That said, had I looked at their stats before hand, I would have had the opposite impression. Most fish at that level are too loose and give too much action. I would have been out faster because I would have likely picked a bad time to 3-bet light against them or not adjusted my pre-flop range enough. As it was, I assumed they were better than they were and played with that assumption.
    I get no respect. . . when I move all-in, people from other tables call.

  6. #6
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    Default Stats are not everything

    One must take stats sites as they are, just some additional information. They should not be the ultimate decision maker. Sharkscope is sit and go only as far as I know. I check others that are tournament only. The player may be making thousands playing cash games, but has lost hundreds playing sit and gos. Sharkscope will tag this player with a negative ROI, are they a fish? No. Could they be, of course. Many accounts are shared between husband and wife, she could be winning, he could be a donk or vice versa. Take the stats and throw them into your poker calculator along with your reads, chip strength, etc and make the proper decisions at the proper times.

    Now if we are talking thousands of games with bad ROI, then some adjustments to your game are in order. The long run is a good way to weigh how your game is progressing (or hopefully not degressing).

    Later,

  7. #7
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    There was a coach in the NFL or some other professional league that said something like "You're only as good as your record says you are".

    I've seen many people post different reasons why their stats don't reflect how good they are - someone else was playing my account, I play better now and my short term record is good, blah blah blah.

    When I started on Partypoker I had a good run and my head swelled so I played way outside my bankroll in some $215 buy-ins. To this day that hurts my stats but I'm not using this as an excuse.

    I'm only as good as my record says I am. C'mon, say it. It's the first step to recovery.

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