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    Default Question on how to play a hand...

    Yesterday I was dealt AA while I was dealer. Everyone around me folded. Due to how people in the BB and SB like to defend their blinds, I raised 3x BB. SB folds, BB calls. Flop was A7A. BB checks, I check. Turn was another low card, he checked, I checked. River was some other card that I was sure he wouldn't have called my raise with, he checked, I bet minimum and he thought about folding I'm sure. It took a while for him to call, and he finally called me, I think more out of curiosity than anything else. My question is merely, how do you play quads when you flop them? How about when you hit them on the turn? How do you play them differently if you are projecting a loose table image, or a tight table image? How does your opponents aggressiveness determine how you play quads? I seem to be okay with full houses, but I find it really hard to make very much money with quads unless my opponent has the high full house and I have the lower set of quads.

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    Quads is not a hand you get very often, but if you do it's the most profitable in a multi-way pot with a board that offers a potential draw to a straight or flush. Then you can slow-play and flat call the fish all the way down until they shove and you then reap the rewards (of course if there's a straight flush draw, then I wouldn't be slowplaying LOL ). In the case you describe, you pretty much got all you were going to get out of the hand from the passive player. Not much you can do other than min-bet the whole way and hope he doesn't fold. I'm thinking if he called out of curiosity on the river, he might have also done so on the turn...likely would have folded on the flop, given the paired board at that point. Hard to say for sure, but seems about right to me.

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    There are alot of factors that go into how you bet quads. How aggressive have you been playing in the past? How often have you made a continuation bet on the flop when you've been pre-flop raiser? What is stack size .v. amount in pot? How aggressive is your villian? is he/she willing to make plays to get pots? can they be tricked into betting if they think they have the best hand on river? How do people precieve overbets at the table?

    The correct play here, is if you've been aggressive at the table, make a standard Continuation bet of about 1/2 to 3/4 size of the pot. You have the deck and action crippled right now. If you get any action, it would be because people in the past have seen you made a Cbet at the flop with nothing in order to pick it up, and if someone has a 7 (or if your REALLY lucky and they have pocket 7s) you will see some action. But if you've been playing very conseratively, you will never get this paid off unless they have the pocket 7s, even then, they may or may not committ all their chips to the pot with pkt 7s given your tight image/their and your stack sizes and how aggressive they play hands. Just be happy with whatever action you get.
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    I felt like I might have gotten as much as I could have, but I felt really dumb showing down quad aces and making 3x the BB, + min bet on the river. I just always feel awkward with quads... I mean, I love having quads, but since I don't get them very often at all, I feel like I almost always play them incorrectly, unless there is an idiot at the table. I did get one person who went all in against me with the second set of quad aces I hit yesterday, but he decided to bet the whole way, so he made it easy. When I have someone who just checks because they are pretty passive, I'm just not sure what to do I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dew12109 View Post
    I felt like I might have gotten as much as I could have, but I felt really dumb showing down quad aces and making 3x the BB, + min bet on the river. I just always feel awkward with quads... I mean, I love having quads, but since I don't get them very often at all, I feel like I almost always play them incorrectly, unless there is an idiot at the table. I did get one person who went all in against me with the second set of quad aces I hit yesterday, but he decided to bet the whole way, so he made it easy. When I have someone who just checks because they are pretty passive, I'm just not sure what to do I guess.
    You'll flop quads infrequently enough that even if you open-folded them, you're not going to hurt your bankroll by much.

    So it's hard to say you played them wrong. I might have tried for a small bet on the turn. Or probably a bet on the flop because I almost always bet the flop and it would look odd if I suddenly checked from the button there. But you probably got the max from this hand.
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    Default correct play

    You played everything correctly.
    Too bad a loose player wasn't at the table trying to suck out.
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    sounds like you got them at the wrong time. I hit quad kings couple weehs ago with 4 others in pot and they did all the betting for me I just called and the gave them all to me.

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