Online Gambling soon to be illegal in Kentucky

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  1. eBecks18 said:

    Default Online Gambling soon to be illegal in Kentucky

    As a kentuckian this new law makes me more angry than many of you but even if u don't live in this state I'm sure u can feel our pain. Our governor is trying(hasn't succedeed just yet) to get the poker sites to reject people from Kentucky!

    per Cardplayer.com

    State Files Case to Stop Online Gambling Industry
    Note: This story was updated at 3 p.m. PT.

    Kentucky is taking on the online gambling industry by attempting to seize 141 domain names registered to online companies by using a law that allows officials to seize devices that are used to for illegal gambling. The government will try to convince a judge on Thursday that the law applies to Internet domain names and that the state should take ownership of them in order to protect its citizens

    Gov. Steve Beshear announced the state's actions at a press conference that took place yesterday. The Justice Cabinet asked Circuit Judge Thomas Wingate to transfer control of the domain names to Kentucky last Thursday. The judge ordered the immediate transfer of the domain names to the state, pending the results of a forfeiture hearing, which is scheduled for Sept. 25.

    According to the Governor’s office, if the judge allows this to happen, it will legally allow Kentucky to block its citizen’s from accessing the sites on the list.

    The list of "dot com" domain name include ones associated with Full Tilt Poker Rakeback" onclick="replacer_hook(92)" target="_blank" href="http://www.rakeback.com/full-tilt-poker/">Full Tilt Poker, Doyles Room, PokerStars, BodogLife, Ultimate Bet, Absolute Poker and Cake Poker, as well as many online sports books and casinos.

    Democrat Beshear, who ironically is trying to convince state politicians to permit casino gambling in Kentucky, is going after the online gambling sites because he says they’re undermining the state’s horse racing industry, allows minors easy access to the sites, and takes away taxes and licensing compensation that would normally go to the state.

    Through a press release announcing this maneuver, Beshear said that Kentucky loses “tens of millions of dollars” a year to unregulated and unlicensed online gambling. He also said the unregulated industry is a threat to national security.

    “Unlicensed, unregulated, illegal Internet gambling poses a tremendous threat to the citizens of the Commonwealth because of its ease, availability and anonymity,” Beshear said at Monday’s press conference. “The owners and operators of these illegal sites prey on Kentucky citizens, including our youth, and deprive the Commonwealth of millions of dollars in revenue. It’s an underworld wrought with scams and schemes.”

    John Pappas, Executive Director of the Poker players Alliance, quickly disagreed with Beshear that online poker is even illegal in Kentucky. In a statement regarding Kentucky’s actions, he framed the argument as one of choice: Kentucky chooses not to regulate and license online poker.

    Pappas’s entire statement follows:

    The Poker Players Alliance is outraged at the actions taken by Kentucky Governor Steve Beshear and the Franklin County Circuit Court to seize the domain names of Internet gambling websites. We believe this action not only unduly restricts the freedom of Kentucky residents to play games of skill, such as poker, online, but sets a precedent for censorship of the Internet by force.

    Many of Governor Beshear’s arguments – that online poker is illegal, unregulated and without a mechanism to capture tax revenue – are false. Online poker is not illegal under Kentucky law, is regulated in its home jurisdiction and the Commonwealth of Kentucky chose not to license and regulate poker websites.

    If the Governor truly wants to implement tighter regulations, taxation mechanisms and consumer protections on Internet gambling, the PPA suggests he publicly support federal legislation by U.S. House of Representatives Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank, H.R. 2460, which would achieve those goals

    Poker is a game of skill, a true American pastime and has a proud heritage in Kentucky. Simply because the game has evolved into the 21st Century, it should not be treated as suspect activity. Forcefully and secretly seizing control of websites that offer online poker games is not a sound public policy or a sound legal solution.


    Complete BS
  2. GreaseStain said:

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    What a douche bag
  3. liladypokerpro's Avatar

    liladypokerpro said:

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    NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! If they do that I'm moving back to Alabama!!!!

    I see you talking but all I hear is blah blah blah
  4. Genesis808082 said:

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    Really wtf is wrong with these politicians? Not one of them can figure out how to punish the criminals on Wall Street but we sure have plenty of time to try and outlaw internet poker. No wonder this country is now a laughing stock.
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    Krahsami said:

    Default moon shining is too

    never stopped anyone anyway. And they say it's a free country. I listen to Alex jones, Ill stop there. before im here for another 5 hours.
    Get in DEEP or get out CHEAP!
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    Vito_Nuccio said:

    Default Insanity

    Prohibition has never worked and it never will.

    Drugs, alcohol, prostitution, gambling and more. It does not matter what the action, if people want to do something, they will do it. No amount of public message or 'therapy' is going to change the opionion/lifestyle of the individual or their choices. You can not reconfigure a human being, let us be. Poker is not going away, either is any other taboo experience. The amount of enforcement is irrelevant. The sooner the leaders of this world figure it out, the better off we will all be.

    Later,
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    Krahsami said:

    Default I alos like to say

    People at home playing poker are not out getting in trouble obviously. I say as long as some one is not hurting some one else then what is the problem?

    Theres alot more sicko's out there that need policing than your average online player. It just makes sense. To quote myself>

    "People at home playing poker are not out getting in trouble "

    Pretty soon there wont be any good players in the US because they dont get enough practice if it keeps up. Then you guys let the Europeons and us Canadians take all the titles.


    Man sports fans go to playoffs or super bowls ect. Then tear up a city afterwards HMMMMMM????
    Get in DEEP or get out CHEAP!
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    liladypokerpro said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krahsami View Post
    People at home playing poker are not out getting in trouble obviously. I say as long as some one is not hurting some one else then what is the problem?
    Simple answer: Just like the rest of the US Government they're money hungry...did you see in the Governer's statement the main concern he showed was the money. They always try to say it's hurting our community...but yet they had no qualms about spending nearly a BILLION on some ridiculous riverfront hotel that looked like someone's 3 year old's Lego set....here's the image of the building they want to build....and get this....they want to put it on River Road....a road Notorious for FLOODING....real bright, Louisville, real bright....



    Oh and let's not forget that a large portion of Kentuckiana residents play at the Horseshoe Casino in Harrison County, Indiana...formerly known as Caesars Indiana...and some even venture as far as Belterra. So what exactly is the difference between Online gambling and the gambling the residents of Kentuckiana do at the Indiana Casinos?? Both are "supposedly" taking revenue from Kentucky...personally I think it's a crock of bull...because the ONLY difference is that they cannot tax the online dollars...therefore they have no control over that money...

    Last edited by liladypokerpro; 25th September 2008 at 04:17 AM.
    I see you talking but all I hear is blah blah blah
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    BUILDMO said:

    Default start the home game

    If internet poker is truely going down, my home game will be played more often.
    Call your congressman, and make your voice heard.
    BUILDMO

    Chance favors the prepared Mind
  10. Boeggs said:

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    But yet horse racing is a big thing there and I'll bet they let you bet on the horse racing. Someone needs to send that guy an email and tell him if he doesn't layoff you'll do everything in your power (legally of course) to make sure he is never re-elected again.
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    liladypokerpro said:

    Default True...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boeggs View Post
    But yet horse racing is a big thing there and I'll bet they let you bet on the horse racing. Someone needs to send that guy an email and tell him if he doesn't layoff you'll do everything in your power (legally of course) to make sure he is never re-elected again.
    Well they still do that within the state of Kentucky, so they like that money...what kills me is people come even from overseas for the Kentucky Derby to bet on horses...Kentucky sure doesn't mind taking THEIR revenue...but God forbid they should get some of ours...they are such hypocrites!!!

    I see you talking but all I hear is blah blah blah
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    frob23 said:

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    What is weird is that Florida legalized poker through the same method as they had legal racing (horse and dog). Basically, they declared that poker was a parimutuel game because the players aren't playing against the house and the house's profit comes from taking a percentage of the total amount bet. This is the same way the bets for the races work. At first the limits were insanely low... but they've been bumped twice... and are still low but you never know. The end of the world hasn't come so Florida might become even more accepting in the future.

    I can't see why KY would be so opposed to poker. That stinks though.

    And the law they passed was absolutely the most retarded thing I have ever seen.
    I get no respect. . . when I move all-in, people from other tables call.
  13. RiverstarsVictim said:

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    Through a press release announcing this maneuver, Beshear said that Kentucky loses “tens of millions of dollars” a year to unregulated and unlicensed online gambling. He also said the unregulated industry is a threat to national security.

    “Unlicensed, unregulated, illegal Internet gambling poses a tremendous threat to the citizens of the Commonwealth because of its ease, availability and anonymity,” Beshear said at Monday’s press conference. “The owners and operators of these illegal sites prey on Kentucky citizens, including our youth, and deprive the Commonwealth of millions of dollars in revenue. It’s an underworld wrought with scams and schemes.
    How did this loony ever become a Governor? Talk about paranoia, he sounds like some acid crazed freak who gets chased by gigantic strawberries every night. Jeez, if FullTilt was a country...