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  1. #1
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    Default need advise on quad kings

    I was on fire!
    Poket KK was dealt and I played them slow.

    Flop comes KQQ
    I check, opponent bets min, I call.
    Next card K - sitting pretty and trying to figure out how to get the most out of my opponent.
    I check.
    Opponent bets $600
    I re-raise to $1200
    All-ins result.
    he has a flush draw (and a one outer for a royal)
    He hits the royal on the river.

    Thinking back, this slow played KK probably wan't played right.
    However, he did hit trip queens on the flop.

    I thought he had had a flush or Full house.
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    Sorry but I have to ask, why do you post this s***? Really this is a pretty inane thread. No, pardon me, its bullshit:

    1. No details on type of game played, what blind level structure in play, how many players, stakes, preflop action, NOTHING

    2. Not going to comment on the play, whatever.

    Please explain this: How can someone hit trip queens on a KQQ board, yet also have a royal flush draw when the turn makes it KKQQ? How could he possibly have a flush, when the most he could ever be was 4 to a flush on the turn?

    You can do better than this

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    Even if this were completely accurate... that's a beat you have to take with KKKK against a royal flush. You will almost certainly lose that hand everytime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUILDMO View Post
    I was on fire!
    Poket KK was dealt and I played them slow.

    Flop comes KQQ
    I check, opponent bets min, I call.
    Next card K - sitting pretty and trying to figure out how to get the most out of my opponent.
    I check.
    Opponent bets $600
    I re-raise to $1200
    All-ins result.
    he has a flush draw (and a one outer for a royal)
    He hits the royal on the river.

    Thinking back, this slow played KK probably wan't played right.
    However, he did hit trip queens on the flop.

    I thought he had had a flush or Full house.
    If he hit trip queens on the flop, he is holding a Queen.

    The turn card is a King for a board of QQKK.

    Since he is holding a Queen he needs a Ten, Jack and Ace (three cards) to complete his Royal.

    He is holding one other card with the Queen and one falls on the river (two cards).

    He cannot have hit the Royal in this example.

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    I'm guessing he's playing omaha?

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    That's the only explanation that seems accurate. I still stand by my claim though.. I doubt I would ever lay down KKKK.

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    Default more to add for

    this was an omaha game, PL, $4 buyin
    strictly a point, good hands do lose.
    pushing good hands regardless of type or buyin should be the moral to the story.
    BUILDMO

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    Hey man..o'man....LoLoLoL!!
    You came across a 1 in a mil situation here..
    Wish it was me holding the royal....
    Whats in the past..forget the last hand..

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    Hey mr. Irish poker
    Why o why do you have 2 hit on any one in this manner...
    It looks like you are always drunk, and then you post replys like this....
    just a thought...use it or don't use it
    Live and let live

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishpkr View Post
    Sorry but I have to ask, why do you post this s***? Really this is a pretty inane thread. No, pardon me, its bullshit:

    1. No details on type of game played, what blind level structure in play, how many players, stakes, preflop action, NOTHING

    2. Not going to comment on the play, whatever.

    Please explain this: How can someone hit trip queens on a KQQ board, yet also have a royal flush draw when the turn makes it KKQQ? How could he possibly have a flush, when the most he could ever be was 4 to a flush on the turn?

    You can do better than this

    I really agree with gerhardt.

    If one thinks about the options in games where this one might even be possible, it's pretty obvious it'll have to be omaha, since I dont know another game with flop, turn. etc and a possibility of the hand going as told.

    To the hand itself:
    If you lose a hand like this, it's something you cant help.

    Some sites offer badbeat jackpots, and this kind of site would have given you a smile and a fat check of a few k$.

    I wish I was the one holding the K's in this sense..

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    If one thinks about the fact they are post a hand where they have the 2nd nuts, then we realise, WTF is going on. As a matter of passing it seems like almost every thread we see revolves around hitting a nut hand, wondering whether to fistpump shove or just shove, then 2 pages of debate about whatever.

    BTW as this is primarily a hold'em forum, if I see a handhistory I'm going to assume its holdem unless you know, its in the title or handhistory that its something else.

    EDIT: Yes I am always drunk, its because I'm Irish don't you know!

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    I go broke everytime there wasnt played wrong. He hit a miracle

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    Default come on irish

    Are you here to help people with thier game or are you just here to bash people.
    proud to be a 24 years US NAVY vet

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    *insert emotionless face here*



    There is only going to be once, TWICE maybe that you are going to lose Quads over someone else's Straight/Royal Flush. Why fold when you know the likely-hood of him having the royal?

    Also, why b!tch and moan (for a lack of a better term) about a hand that YOU GOT YOUR MONEY IN WITH THE NUTS! There was no way of predicting the outcome of this river, there is absolutly no way. So shoving here on the turn was yoru best bet. He was a donkey and was all in with a flush/Royal draw and happened to hit it. So what, no big deal. Now you know his style of play (psycho), and his style is the best way to get your money back. More times that not, against a player like this one, you are going to win back MUCH more than you lost. Yeah, you lost an all-in, but it's more beneficial to you in the long run.
    Want a real challenge? PM me about the Chris Ferguson challenge! (which I can now say I have completed myself!)
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    Once I have a set I'm pushing. If it ends my tourney then so be it

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