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    Nice, glad you found it useful. Anytime I have a situation where I'm curious about the odds, I have that thing as one of the buttons on firefox so I can pull it up pretty quickly. I primarily use it for omaha since so much can be going on in those hands.

    One other thing I didn't think about in my previous post is if the board pairs up with the 10 on the turn, this gives your villain another two outs. So really, pairing the board has a chance to increase his chances of winning more than it has a chance to help your hand, unless he was on a flush draw, then the paired board definitely hurts his chances.

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    K, I have only read the last 5 posts, and have no intention of reading the whole thread, but just need to comment on this.

    Quote Originally Posted by mmachin7@cs.com View Post
    When you say 8.8% and I say 5%, it just shows that you are very quick to put others down, when you clearly don't think about your response, or perhaps it better describes you that you don't know any better. 5% is generous... sure he had 2 outs, giving him an 8% chance to improve his hand. I also had a case 9, and any other card pairing the board improves my hand. I'm prety sure that is 6 at the turn and 9 on the river. So while I may not be spot on with my 5% approximation, it is a helluva lot closer than your estimation based on his outs and forgettin that I had a ton more outs. I was probably closer to 97%.
    This is nonsensical, boating up doesn't change anything, if an ace hits he has a better boat (I'm assuming the hand was aces over set with no flushes/straights involved). There are literally 2 outs with 1 redrawing out. The redraw makes near 0 difference. You probably need to study pokerstove a little bit.

    On that note, I made a fiver the other day when I lost AQ vs. K8 and he (a reasonable player) tried to tell me it was around 56%! I took the over on 60% and obv won. :-)

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