SNG Stats : Rate me plz !

[CallifyouDare]

I've loaded some tournament histories into PT3 and have come out with the following stats over 200 SNGs and 18k hands at $2+0.25 @ FTP :

VPIP : 15.56
PFR : 9.45
WWSF : 36.69
WSD :56.73
AF : 2.3
BB/Hand : 0.02
ROI : 17.78

Could you guys please comment my stats ? Anything constructive would be appreciated. Thanks.

[travz21]

The best ever.

[Mika Ollila]

I do not consired myself to be qualified to comment on SNG stats, so I'll make a shameless plugin instead, sorry.

Two hundred $2+0.25 SNG's means you paid $50 rake. So your rakeback on a 27% deal would be $13.50, the same as six more similar SNG buy-ins. In the long run you really start seeing the benefit of rakeback. Sign-up bonus comes and goes, but rakeback keeps on steadily adding to your bankroll bottom line.

[phaul]

Lol at the replies above me.

I've loaded some tournament histories into PT3 and have come out with the following stats over 200 SNGs and 18k hands at $2+0.25 @ FTP :

VPIP : 15.56
PFR : 9.45
WWSF : 36.69
WSD :56.73
AF : 2.3
BB/Hand : 0.02
ROI : 17.78

Could you guys please comment my stats ? Anything constructive would be appreciated. Thanks.

Firstly, this sample is really small, so I wouldn't take too much notice. Secondly, ignore the first 5 stats, they are irrelevant. If you're playing properly your VPIP, PFR and AF should vary humongously throughout the SnG, all rising as the blinds increase. Your ROI seems good, even at those stakes, although as I said, very small sample.

The problem with SnGs is that there's no real way to track your play apart from on results. For example, all-in EV would be useless as it would be very possible for someone to be massively +chip EV but massively -$EV over 1000000000000 games. I would LOVE to how much under my all-in $EV I am.

[CallifyouDare]

First, I'd like to mention I laughed at Molila's response. It helped me lighten up today when I read it.

Next, about the volume of hands, I have another set of numbers gained through a 1000+ SNGs period (in my old PT2 database) but I wasn't playing consistently at the same level which is why I didn't include it here.

My goal is to find anything that I need to change in my game because I'm planning to moving in limits.

@phaul : I can provide detailed stats for each blind level if you really want them, but I'm just wondering what would be good numbers for a consistently winning player who wants to move up in limits. From what you said, I shouldn't look too much into these stats. Where do I need to look to perfect my game then ?

[C8H10N4O2]

Where do I need to look to perfect my game then ?

At another game where perfection is obtainable.

[phaul]

Actually Dew you can gain near-perfection in the latter stages of an SnG. This is why people can multi-table loads. I've heard of one guy 51-tabling; he just opened every possible SnG going. He can't have been studying people too hard!

First, I'd like to mention I laughed at Molila's response. It helped me lighten up today when I read it.

Next, about the volume of hands, I have another set of numbers gained through a 1000+ SNGs period (in my old PT2 database) but I wasn't playing consistently at the same level which is why I didn't include it here.

My goal is to find anything that I need to change in my game because I'm planning to moving in limits.

@phaul : I can provide detailed stats for each blind level if you really want them, but I'm just wondering what would be good numbers for a consistently winning player who wants to move up in limits. From what you said, I shouldn't look too much into these stats. Where do I need to look to perfect my game then ?

I know you're only a micro player atm, but the best thing you can do is buy SnGWiz and study it. It costs $99 (last time I checked) but is well worth it if you have any long-term timeframe in mind. Don't post stats, I have no idea what would be good stats at each level. Also move up asap, you're not gonna make very much or learn anything playing people who don't care about the money. The games are ridic soft on FTP up to and including $11+1, anyone who knows anything about SnG strategy and has a brain can beat the $11s so don't worry about moving up too quickly, just make sure you're rolled for it as SnG variance can be so sick.

[phosphorescence]

there's some program called SnGwiz which you might want to look at. i've never used it myself but it can tell you when it's profitable to shove/call etc.

[CallifyouDare]

I would understand the need of buying SNGWiz if I could have more details about what does this program. A safe guess is that it can provide numerous stats from hand histories of SNGs, but what kind of stats ?
If so, could you give me an example ?
If not, what does this program for you ?

I've been considering moving up for some time now but I still don't feel like it regarding my BR. What would be your BR if you wanted to move up to $5+0.50 ? up to $11+1 ?

[BONSA7]

I guess, you have a nice buffer with 800$ - 900$

[phaul]

I would understand the need of buying SNGWiz if I could have more details about what does this program. A safe guess is that it can provide numerous stats from hand histories of SNGs, but what kind of stats ?
If so, could you give me an example ?
If not, what does this program for you ?

I've been considering moving up for some time now but I still don't feel like it regarding my BR. What would be your BR if you wanted to move up to $5+0.50 ? up to $11+1 ?

SnGWiz tells you whether it is mathematically correct to shove/fold/call in a variety of situations you can input yourself. For example, you pick up A5o on the button on the bubble of an SnG, if you plug in your HH and estimated opponents' calling ranges, it can tell you whether it's better to shove or fold.

Last time I checked it came with a 3 month trial period, so if you don't like it you can get a full refund within 90 days or s/th.

Re bankroll, a general rule is 30 buyins, although SnG variance can be sick, so some prefer having 50 buyins. Personally, I move up when I hit 40 buyins for the next level, down if I hit 20-25 for the current level (depending on how I feel lol).

[ph1shman420]

sngwiz has a free 30 day trial btw

[C8H10N4O2]

^Nice first post.