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    Default Raise before flop ?

    I'm in a tournament, and I've KJ and there are a raise before the flop !!

    I must call ? raise ? or All In for try to take the Blinds ?

    Thx

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    K-J is a trash hand unless your stacks are really short (in which case you should be the first person in the pot). You're only playing this if you've been pushing the table around and really know the other player so you don't get into trouble.

    For the most part, especially at a full table and facing a raise, just fold it every time and you can't go wrong.

    Calling is easily the worst option. A raise and/or a shove will likely get called by a much better hand since the pot was already opened for a raise. Your only hope of winning is that the original raiser was getting frisky and raised lighter than they should have and will let it go. And if you're stack is small enough to shove all-in, you aren't getting anyone off the hand after they raise.

    Stacks sizes, position, blinds, player images would make this answer more accurate.

    You aren't able to "try to take the Blinds" with this hand any more. Someone is already in the pot. You are only trying to just take the blinds when you're raising as the first person to enter the hand.
    I get no respect. . . when I move all-in, people from other tables call.

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    Ok Thanks !!

    But , if there are no Raise, I can raise no !?

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    That depends on your position and the stack sizes around the table. It also matters if someone else already came into the hand.

    If everyone folds to you in the cut-off (player to act before the button) and all the remaining players have a fair amount of chips (not too much and not too little), a simple raise to 3xBB-4xBB in an attempt to take the blinds is certainly in order.

    If someone limps in, don't waste your chips trying to raise them out with this hand. You might call if you think you can outplay them on the flop and if you'll have position. But this is the sort of hand where a lot of people lose a lot of money when they hit a pair and over-value it.
    I get no respect. . . when I move all-in, people from other tables call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frob23 View Post
    That depends on your position and the stack sizes around the table. It also matters if someone else already came into the hand.

    If everyone folds to you in the cut-off (player to act before the button) and all the remaining players have a fair amount of chips (not too much and not too little), a simple raise to 3xBB-4xBB in an attempt to take the blinds is certainly in order.

    If someone limps in, don't waste your chips trying to raise them out with this hand. You might call if you think you can outplay them on the flop and if you'll have position. But this is the sort of hand where a lot of people lose a lot of money when they hit a pair and over-value it.
    Ok Thanks for your explication

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