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  1. #1
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    Default Omaha question 4 aces...

    I was having a debate with my friend about this and I was wondering what you guys would do...

    If you were dealt 4 aces in omaha would you play it or fold it?

    My friend thinks you should always play it. I wouldn't play it 9 or 6 handed. If I were heads up I would play it but would not raise in this situation.

    If your opponent bets ANY flop you will have no idea where you are at... you can't improve your hand... and you can't make a straight or a flush.

    (I know this will not happen that often but I just wanted some other opinions.. I dunno maybe I am wrong)

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    When you start out with quads in the hole in Omaha or Omaha H/L, you are basically stuck with a pair. Like you had stated, you can't make a straight, flush, boat, quads, or anything higher than a pair (unless their is a pair on board).

    Your best bet would be for their to be 3 Kings on the board, and if your opponent doesn't have a king, you have the nuts. But given the variance and type of play in Omaha recently (all the holdem players moving to Omaha) they will play it thinking it is better than they actually are.

    Would you play pocket aces in holdem knowing the other two aces will not be played, and you HAVE to use your two hole cards? Given that, you are not stuck with many options to improve post flop, turn, or river.

    The only real hands you will win with when you hold quads in the hole is 3 of-a-kind on the board (preferably high so that they will not have a better set than is on board) and that would give you a boat. But then again, you can't know if they other person has that one other card to make quads, or if their is an overcard, if they have a higher boat.

    It's not like you are playing quad aces, but more playing aces without a chance to improve. Hands that occur A LOT in Omaha that could beat this situation: two pair, trips, straight, and flushes. With 4 cards and 6 two-cards options per player, chances are you will be beat post flop.

    I never play quads in the hole, no matter how high or low they are. It is just giving your chips away and asking for trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokerbucket View Post
    If you were dealt 4 aces in omaha would you play it or fold it?
    Easy fold imo...
    I see you talking but all I hear is blah blah blah

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    it is a terrible hand and should never be played in omaha hi and 3 aces should also be mucked. The only time i would consider playing it is open pot raising it in late position in plo8. And i would only be doing this as an attempt to pick up the blinds because i am unlikely to get called with all the aces dead. if i did get action though i would not bet again.


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    Quads in the hole is an insta-fold 100% of the time in omaha. There really is no reason to play this hand.

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    actually i though of a time it should be played. AAAA is 52% against a completely random hand.so if you are heads up and are short enough to justify a shove all in then go ahead and shove.

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