i'm an idiot

[DeadBabySoup]

defdumbandblind was dormant for about 2 years. if that's a newer site, it wouldn't surprise me if my stats are messed up. but i can tell you with 100% certainty i never went on a $1,400 free fall.

edit: i found the site you're on. pokerlabs.com. any way you sort my stats they're off. here's what it says if you pull up the past year, which isn't correct either...

[EliminateU]

min raise before the flop with AJ. min bet after the flop with top pair top kicker. but obvious flush and straight draws. then calling a check raise all in with 4 outs. whether i had a straight or a flush, it should have been fairly obvious he had 4 outs. so yes, i think he played it pretty bad.

or he picked off a bad bluff...oops, that's exactly what he did. He saw you as an easy mark and soaked you. B-B-BOOM.

[DeadBabySoup]

or he picked off a bad bluff...oops, that's exactly what he did. He saw you as an easy mark and soaked you. B-B-BOOM.

ok. except i won. i guess you didn't see the straight either.

[EliminateU]

i can usually see some merit in your hand analysis. but you are way off here. he should have shoved preflop UTG with AT? only if he wants to donk out. he should have limped and folded to a raise. or at the most, bet 3x bb. and folded to a raise. he was out of position and overplayed his hand horribly then got lucky.

it seems to me you just want to argue for the sake of arguing. because if you're seriously suggesting shoving with AT UTG is a good move, your opinion isn't doing anyone any good.

Go play more micro-stakes loser.

[DeadBabySoup]

Go play more micro-stakes loser.

go burn a cross in someone's yard. no wait, i take that back. please don't.

[EliminateU]

i don't care if you're trying to pick a fight or not. a lot of your posts are negative and personal. which is why i ignore them except when you're speaking to me. even then, i try to ignore your attitude.

you post a lot of opinions, some are good, some are bad. saying it's better to shove with AT suited than to limp is just plain bad. but i don't bother telling you that. because when people make things personal, they're not interested in hearing another point of view. they simply want to win an argument. you'd be better served to remember that your opinions are opinions. and lay off the insults when other player's opinions aren't the same as yours.

just my opinion

You are an idiot. In his position it was either fold his crappy ATs or shove and push AJ,AQ, and 55-99 out. He got unlucky you had TT+. Your arguments here are ridiculous. And your attacks on better players is laughable.

[EliminateU]

you just repeated a questionable opinion. you keep saying it's better to shove than to limp with ATs. but you give no logic to support that opinion. if he were to shove, he's only getting called if he's crushed. if he limps, he can get away from it if he's beat.

regarding the other hand, you still haven't explained how under betting against potential flush and straight draws isn't a major mistake. saying he might have been "trying to induce a spaz" is just another was of saying he was trying to trap a donk. personally, i don't think he even saw the straight draw. regardless, that's not board where you trap.

LOL, i think he has answered you 3 times thus far...i'll read on to see how many more times he tells you the same thing.

[DeadBabySoup]

You are an idiot. In his position it was either fold his crappy ATs or shove and push AJ,AQ, and 55-99 out. He got unlucky you had TT+. Your arguments here are ridiculous. And your attacks on better players is laughable.

glad my favorite douche is back. the proper move was to fold. shoving is borderline suicidal. i didn't attack anyone who didn't attack me first. if they want to hurl insults, that's fine. but it would help if they were at least profitable players.

[EliminateU]

you can't explain why raising all in would be better than limping. because it's not.

and you don't have to check to slowplay. betting your hand weak is a form of slowplaying too. it should be common sense not to slowplay when there's a strong chance a free or cheap card could beat you. which is the case with potential flush and straight draws on the flop.

UTG with ATs...hmmm, 95% fold...i think phaul said same.

some circumstances shove it. why is shoving better than limping? Can ATs stand ANY raise? NO.

If UTG shoves, can later players get away from AJ, AQ, 55-99? Yes, very often. His fold equity balances out his odds. Hands that call him? AK usually. TT,JJ more than 50%. QQ nearly always (95%). AA,KK 100%.

His play is not being lauded fool. Your protestations are being laughed at, as you are a complete moron.

[EliminateU]

when you shove with AT there, you're getting called by AK, AQ, possibly even AJ. AA, KK, QQ, JJ and probably TT. so there are too many hands that have you crushed to risk your entire stack that early at the final table. folding is fine too. but so is limping. when someone limps under the gun, that often means they have a stronger hand than if they had raised. this late in the tournament, people will limp with aces or kings or ace king under the gun. so you're probably not going to get raised by a marginal hand. and like i said, you would like to see a flop with 4 or 5 other players. that's the ideal situation for suited connectors. but you sure as hell don't want to be all in pre flop with that hand.

as for the actual math, ATs has an EV of .31. with anything less than an EV of 1, you're going to lose most of the time. so shoving when you're most likely going to lose is a donk play in my opinion. but maybe that's just me

LOL
by a bad player like you maybe. AJ is EASY laydown. It is trash. AQ, might have to hit time before the fold depending on stack sizes and tourney position. Then rest of range fits my previous post. Put that range into the stove and get back to us. ta-ta.

[DeadBabySoup]

UTG with ATs...hmmm, 95% fold...i think phaul said same.

i think it would help if you could read. paul is saying 100% shove. i think it's a fold. i'm ok with limping if he hopes to get lucky and see a flop.

by the way, shouldn't you be in iraq killing babies? i'm hungry. get to work.

[EliminateU]

lol... whatever site you pulled that from is nowhere near accurate. i've made one deposit of $50 on full tilt. and currently have over $500 in my account. that's after multiple cashouts. try sharkscope.

Sharkscope is a trash site doofus. LOL.

[EliminateU]

go burn a cross in someone's yard. no wait, i take that back. please don't.

That doesn't even make sense. Are you smoking some bad oregano?

[EliminateU]

glad my favorite douche is back. the proper move was to fold. shoving is borderline suicidal. i didn't attack anyone who didn't attack me first. if they want to hurl insults, that's fine. but it would help if they were at least profitable players.

All make more money than you.

[EliminateU]

i think it would help if you could read. paul is saying 100% shove. i think it's a fold. i'm ok with limping if he hopes to get lucky and see a flop.

by the way, shouldn't you be in iraq killing babies? i'm hungry. get to work.

I don't see what these stupid jabs have to do with your pathetic poker skills (I say skills in the loosest sense of the word). Are you upset all now see you as an idiot/tool?

phaul NEVER said 100% shove in any post I saw. He said folding is best, but if you have to decide between limping or shoving: shove. I agree. We both are better players than you mr micro.

[C8H10N4O2]

Lol, if it weren't for every quoted line, I'd have never known he was back in this thread. Pretty funny. Anyway, I think the proper play with ATs there is fold. But I like shoving more than limp/folding here. Limp folding is really the worst play.

As for the site tracking etc... most sites are off including sharkscope from the period that FTP updated its software. Some sites came back on faster than others, because they were quicker with modifying their software so it could track the results again.

When you are pulling up the tab and showing the stats here... you are only showing the MTT tab. This site breaks down your stats into MTT, SnG's, and HU games. If a game is listed in the SnG section of the website you play on, it's shown as an SnG there despite being a 90 person or more. It has 194 SnG's tracked for you in the last 360 days. Not 3.

[EliminateU]

Just curious DeadIdiotSoup...but since you posted 2 FTP accounts as your own, does that mean you ADMIT to multi-accounting? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM???

[DeadBabySoup]

All make more money than you.

only if they're making up their losses in cash games. they both have pretty horrible stats.

[DeadBabySoup]

I don't see what these stupid jabs have to do with your pathetic poker skills (I say skills in the loosest sense of the word). Are you upset all now see you as an idiot/tool?

phaul NEVER said 100% shove in any post I saw. He said folding is best, but if you have to decide between limping or shoving: shove. I agree. We both are better players than you mr micro.

lol... read his posts and show me where he once said folding is the best move. this thread wouldn't be 7 pages long if he had. he's been arguing for 2 days that shove is the best move.

[DeadBabySoup]

Lol, if it weren't for every quoted line, I'd have never known he was back in this thread. Pretty funny. Anyway, I think the proper play with ATs there is fold. But I like shoving more than limp/folding here. Limp folding is really the worst play.

As for the site tracking etc... most sites are off including sharkscope from the period that FTP updated its software. Some sites came back on faster than others, because they were quicker with modifying their software so it could track the results again.

When you are pulling up the tab and showing the stats here... you are only showing the MTT tab. This site breaks down your stats into MTT, SnG's, and HU games. If a game is listed in the SnG section of the website you play on, it's shown as an SnG there despite being a 90 person or more. It has 194 SnG's tracked for you in the last 360 days. Not 3.

all i can tell you is it's off. sharkscope is pretty close. plus rakeback and bonuses. between the two accounts, i'm probably up about $800. not great. but not horrible.