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lilady..
As stated in my analyses..point taken , and appreciated.
forget that I even tried to learn from this experience , and tried to get myself and other ppl thinking about similar situations,in future..
men from mars, woman from venus is a book, portraying difs. between men and woman's thinking..
you're degrading manner of speaking in this post, is not appreciated..
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Originally Posted by liladypokerpro
I love you too frecklers...
By the way... I don't cook... but I do shoot better than every male in our family...
lol
OK I take it back
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Excuse me, but who was the one being degrading? It certainly wasn't me. You bringing up a book to insinuate that you are right because you are a male and I am wrong because I am a woman was laughable... and now you accuse ME of being degrading?! Whatever dude. You're living in your own world. Go ahead and stay there. But don't post asking for input if you can't handle the truth, regardless of the gender of person giving it to you.
By the way, I'm not ignorant... I know that is/was a book... but I don't read trash like that because I do not judge people based on their differences. I am not shallow like that. And I never degrade another human being, so if you misunderstood example for degradation that is not my error.
One last note... the fact that I have a genius level spacial intelligence makes me a rare case for a female, as this is generally ONLY found in the male psyche. So don't try to preach about differences in thinking when you don't know a thing about me. Ok, I'm done now. Enjoy the rest of your day.
I see you talking but all I hear is blah blah blah
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OP is obv a moron who doesn't understand life in general, much less poker. Why do people start these threads if they can't take good advice? Seems to be a common theme these days.
Think for yourself. Question authority.
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Travz, it is sometimes hard to take on board too much critisism of your play and so I don't think you can be too harsh on the OP for his response. We can all get a little tetchy from time to time (as Dew witnessed on Saturday)
Gerhart....As it was you opted to play your hand here in a certain way, whether you played it that way because you thought it was high risk - high reward or whether you simply didn't understand the errors you were making I am unsure, however just to break it down for you.
Your pre flop bet offers a flop pot of 40K and the opponent has to call only 10K. With those odds, even if he saw your hole cards he would be correct to call with pretty much any reasonable hand. You are effectively offering great odds for someone to crack your hand.
On the flop the board is pretty scary (even with your hand) J102 could well have presented your opponent with a draw or a pair quite easily given the potential range. You then bet 10K into a 40K pot offering a 60K pot when he calls (for 10K) he would again be correct to call with numerous cards that could eventually beat your hand.
The turn you offer a potential 80K pot for 10K again ridiculous odds for any hand and the board is worsening.
By offering these odds whilst effectively committing yourself to the hand (i.e. you have a river pot of 80K and a stack of 26K) you are placing the rest of your stack at risk.
As it was his odds of outdrawing u weren't great, but imagine a hand like KQ, AK or AQ A9 etc...
Looking at it from a simplistic point of view...You get yourself in a great position and then choose to take huge risks by offering amazing odds with just 1 pair against the one guy at the table who can bust your entire stack.
Over the long term the option you chose will cost you some of your profit and the consistent advice offered by most contributors to this thread is absolutely sound.
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the only situation you'd want to play your hand that weak is if you'd flopped a set of kings or better with no straight or flush draws out there. then you can milk it and get it in on the river.
also, someone's gender has no relevance in poker. not a lot of women play in general. but there are some very good female players. if anything, it's an advantage for them. idiots underestimate them. and end up paying them off when they shouldn't
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lilady..
Please stop this issue of gender..my reply about men from mars, woman from venus was only because of you saying that you did not understand one of my sentences,..and NOT about who is wrong , or right..
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I want to come back to my topic: What is wrong with fulltilt ppl?( not woman/men ) alll!!!!!!!!!!
Without going into to much detail..I had another tourney at fulltilt today..
got pocket 99..raised about 3xbb (which is still small) ?? calls
Flop is 3 4 10...I check..?? goes all in..I call
?? shows 2 3..turn is 3 ..river is irrelivant, because it's not a 9..
My point from the start of this discussion, or thread is..ppl at fulltilt is going bonkers, they shove in with any sh*t..they don't care, win or loose..
I don't say: all at fulltilt, nor any gender, and maybe not at higher levels, but most ppl at lower levels are loosing it...
They do shove in with ANYTHING..hit or not
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Dude, nobody could make any sense of that sentence so it wasn't just me. You post things in bits and pieces, ask for input and then try to burn anyone who disagrees.
Your comment about that book was derogatory toward me as a female, to which you openly admitted to, and yet you called me the derogatory one. So how you think I was the one who brought up the gender issue is beyond me.
Frankly I couldn't care less about what you think, but you're not going to publicly insult me and then try to justify it by throwing the blame at me.
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Nothing is wrong with Full Tilt people. Nothing at all. They're all perfect players, just like you.
Why ask silly questions when you already know the answer? You're playing at the low levels and you expect perfect professional play? If so, you should seriously quit poker and try another game...
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lilady..
To put this isue of who said what , and not..
I publicly apoligise for any statements made by myself, toward you as a human being, and as a lady
It was never my intention , to hurt you're feelings in any way or form..
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Thank you very much gerhardt. I'll accept, and I too will apologize as well if anything I said was taken in a manner which it was not intended.
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Dont see what your problem is. You got it all in with the best hand as 4-1 favourite. Longterm you'll win but you dont like this situation?
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Hip-hip
Thanx for nailing it RSV.. I did not like the call KK v 33, with the blinds that big ..but I do realise that the best hand won
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Thanx Lilady..
I also do accept
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i think the main picture here is the min raise preflop in the BB. Had you went all in with KK pre with the blinds going up, this is your best chance to double up or rake in some chips. I think your min raise portrayed a weak hand that wasn't made yet, and the guy was definitely going to call with 33 in hopes of a coin flip. but with your AI preflop you probably would have gotten a little more respect and he might not have called, and if he did call at least you know you played it right but just got rivered.
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