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    Default FAO all shortstackers

    Why do you bother?

    Is it just the money?

    Do you enjoy killing the game?

    It's obviously not poker as you cannot effectively play half the game. Suited connectors and mine setting are just 2 examples you miss out on. Your game is so mind numbingly boring and for what?, your AA to occasionally double up to give you 30+bb's after rake?

    Let's hear it purplechip & co.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverstarsVictim View Post
    Why do you bother?

    Is it just the money?

    Do you enjoy killing the game?

    It's obviously not poker as you cannot effectively play half the game. Suited connectors and mine setting are just 2 examples you miss out on. Your game is so mind numbingly boring and for what?, your AA to occasionally double up to give you 30+bb's after rake?

    Let's hear it purplechip & co.
    I had fun multi-table short stacking for... about 400 hands. Then I was finished. I think I was mainly in a mood to watch people get angry over stuff I did. It was also funny getting called all-in with some really really weak hands, but like I said, for only about 400 hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dew12109 View Post
    I had fun multi-table short stacking for... about 400 hands. Then I was finished. I think I was mainly in a mood to watch people get angry over stuff I did. It was also funny getting called all-in with some really really weak hands, but like I said, for only about 400 hands.

    If people were getting angry then there might actually be an advantage to be had?

    Personally I just get pissed off where when I do get a monster I seem to be up against the only shortstacker on the table. Otherwise I'm continually folding PP's because I cant be arsed to either give them action nor enter a race where I seem to come off worse more often than not.

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    i don't play much cash. but it can be a very profitable strategy. i once saw a friend sit at a .25/.50 heads up table with $20 against a guy with around $800. the guy was reckless, trying to knock him out with any 2 cards. doubled him up a few times right off the bat. after that, he had him on tilt and kept outplaying him until he had his entire $800. he even reloaded a couple times. before it was over, he took close to $1000 off him.

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    A lot of the shortstackers I play with are very, very bad. They don't even play basic strat. They like to limp/push with a variety of hands because they think they have so much respect to have a monster there. I've been limp/pushed on with KJs so many times the last couple days I can't even count. I think it might be more profitable playing against a table with a few of them instead of a couple more full stackers, to be honest. I just hate the tables where you have 5 or 6 of them. You can't play poker against them. You can raise and call all in. That's a lot of fun, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverstarsVictim View Post
    Why do you bother?

    Is it just the money?

    Do you enjoy killing the game?

    It's obviously not poker as you cannot effectively play half the game. Suited connectors and mine setting are just 2 examples you miss out on. Your game is so mind numbingly boring and for what?, your AA to occasionally double up to give you 30+bb's after rake?

    Let's hear it purplechip & co.
    Oh, and I think we all know they do it so they can earn points and rakeback at a much more rapid pace. But they are so bad at poker I don't know how they think they can pull it off. What is a shortstackers br, anyways? Like 4 full buyins?

    I've only seen a couple shortstackers in my life that play it like they're supposed to, and they are really good at it (not at poker). But it much easier to play full stacked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadBabySoup View Post
    i don't play much cash. but it can be a very profitable strategy. i once saw a friend sit at a .25/.50 heads up table with $20 against a guy with around $800. the guy was reckless, trying to knock him out with any 2 cards. doubled him up a few times right off the bat. after that, he had him on tilt and kept outplaying him until he had his entire $800. he even reloaded a couple times. before it was over, he took close to $1000 off him.
    Most short stackers sit with 20BB's, and play mass tables not focusing on the game. It's usually raise pre shove flop , or shove pre-flop type of strategy. Then when they get to 30-40BB's they leave. You friend's example is starting out a little deeper stacked, but then playing deep stacked, where short stackers leave as soon as they double.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travz21 View Post
    I've only seen a couple shortstackers in my life that play it like they're supposed to, and they are really good at it (not at poker). But it much easier to play full stacked.

    To be fair I played on the ipoker network earlier this year and the shortstackers were pretty solid. They all turn up with free BR's. They just killed every fekn game so I cashed out and fecked it off. Now they seem to be infiltrating FT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverstarsVictim View Post
    To be fair I played on the ipoker network earlier this year and the shortstackers were pretty solid. They all turn up with free BR's. They just killed every fekn game so I cashed out and fecked it off. Now they seem to be infiltrating FT.
    I'd say. There are at least 3 on pretty much every table I sit at. Some tables are all shortstackers, which makes no sense to me. Their strat is based on playing against full stackers. They must like circle jerking each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dew12109 View Post
    Most short stackers sit with 20BB's, and play mass tables not focusing on the game. It's usually raise pre shove flop , or shove pre-flop type of strategy. Then when they get to 30-40BB's they leave. You friend's example is starting out a little deeper stacked, but then playing deep stacked, where short stackers leave as soon as they double.
    he intended to just double up and leave. but once he had him on tilt, it made sense to hang around. that said, he's not a typical short stack player. he's very good overall. he played pro for a couple years until he got tired of the lifestyle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadBabySoup View Post
    he intended to just double up and leave. but once he had him on tilt, it made sense to hang around. that said, he's not a typical short stack player. he's very good overall. he played pro for a couple years until he got tired of the lifestyle.
    You're talking about HU. The only SSS I know about is for FR. If your mate is that good why doesn't he just play for the max HU?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverstarsVictim View Post
    You're talking about HU. The only SSS I know about is for FR. If your mate is that good why doesn't he just play for the max HU?
    Owned. A lot of good HU'ers I know buyin for 70bbs though. I guess it makes stack sizes easier to work with, I'd imagine, or else I don't know why they'd do it. I've never asked them because I hate HU anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by travz21 View Post
    Owned. A lot of good HU'ers I know buyin for 70bbs though. I guess it makes stack sizes easier to work with, I'd imagine, or else I don't know why they'd do it. I've never asked them because I hate HU anything.

    Since when was 70bb's a short stack strategist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverstarsVictim View Post
    You're talking about HU. The only SSS I know about is for FR. If your mate is that good why doesn't he just play for the max HU?
    I have read a few articles on SSS for 6-max which is where I tried it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverstarsVictim View Post
    Since when was 70bb's a short stack strategist?
    I never said it was. I was getting off the shortstacker idea for a second lol. I was pointing out that even great HU'ers don't buyin full.
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    Quote Originally Posted by travz21 View Post
    I never said it was. I was getting off the shortstacker idea for a second lol. I was pointing out that even great HU'ers don't buyin full.

    Nah, you tried owning me on a quote. We're talking sss, not 70bb's.

    I've accepted your apology in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by dew12109 View Post
    I have read a few articles on SSS for 6-max which is where I tried it out.

    The articles I've read all suggest FR with a minimum 7 players. Do you have a link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverstarsVictim View Post
    The articles I've read all suggest FR with a minimum 7 players. Do you have a link?
    You'll have to give me a bit of time to pull it up. I have a lot going on tonight, and I apparently didn't save it where I thought I did. The guides are out there, I promise.

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    Right now I am working with someone who is playing with a <$10 bankroll. In their case, buying in for $0.50 and playing short-stack... doubling and leaving... is all they can do. Eventually, when they build it up, we'll start playing with big stacks but right now it is the best way to ensure they don't go broke on 3-4 bad hands.

    It's boring and it sucks to play like that. But it does make the money if you know what you're doing.
    I get no respect. . . when I move all-in, people from other tables call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverstarsVictim View Post
    Nah, you tried owning me on a quote. We're talking sss, not 70bb's.

    I've accepted your apology in advance
    I was saying "owned" to your remark to DeadBabySoup about if his friend was that good, why wasn't he playing fullstacked heads up.
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