pokerlife

[the brain001]

poker life

for several months ,into my head it is a brainstorming, i don't know if i stop working and start to be a real poker player
i have two children and a wife
for the moment i only play online ,i got a ticket for the sunday million on pokerstar
i think that if i can be on the last ten player on this tournament i should try to be a pro poker player
if i loose
i start my pokerlife only when i went my chidren star their own life
it's amazing ,i afraid of that ,but i love this game
someone can help me ??

the brain001

[DeadBabySoup]

personally, i think you should treat poker as a hobby. play in your spare time. build a bankroll. and if your bankroll grows so large that you're making more money in your spare time than at work, then consider quitting your job and becoming a professional poker player. not many players can do it. i wouldn't base your decision on the outcome of a single tournament. you have to show consistent positive results over a long period of time.

[C8H10N4O2]

poker life

for several months ,into my head it is a brainstorming, i don't know if i stop working and start to be a real poker player
i have two children and a wife
for the moment i only play online ,i got a ticket for the sunday million on pokerstar
i think that if i can be on the last ten player on this tournament i should try to be a pro poker player
if i loose
i start my pokerlife only when i went my chidren star their own life
it's amazing ,i afraid of that ,but i love this game
someone can help me ??

the brain001

Wait until you've built up enough money to live and support your family for an entire year. Set that money aside in a separate bank account and then you have to have enough of a roll... $10k min to play high enough stakes that you can continue to make enough money playing poker to support your life. Keep that money separated from your living expense money and never touch your living expense money for your poker money.

[ballboy75]

wow, definitly think this through before you make any decision.
I personally would stay away from poker as a carrier if you have a wife and 2 children.
You never know what can happen in poker, you dont want to risk any distress to your family if god forbid things go bad. As said above, keep poker (IMO) as a hobby only, if you do well at it, it can be an extra income yet i wouldnt leave your regular job where you get paid for certain, it just seems like you have to much to risk. obviously this choice is completly up to you, yet i would really contemplate on the possible consequences of living a poker life while you have obligations towards your family.

[travz21]

Sell your children and wife for a boost to your bankroll. Then you'll be able to start playing pro.

[DeadBabySoup]

another thing you should consider, you're probably playing at micro stakes right now. in order to make enough money to survive, you'd probably need to play something like 10/20 NL. you'll run into much better competition there. i don't know if you're any good or not. but you'd have to be very good to win consistently at those levels.

[Fictive]

Think this through very carefully. The higher the stakes, the better the players, hence harder to make a profit. For example, you might absoultely kill NL50 or NL100, but at higher limits you might not be able to hold your own. Why not just keep your job and try to make free time for playing. I personally know 2 guys making a living with poker so that they work around 6 months per year, and during spring/summer they play poker to make a living. Both are very strong and solid players, but listening to their stories... it's not always easy. You really need to have your bankroll in great shape once the variance hits you and you go on a several month losing streak.

[ProtekYoNuts]

another thing you should consider, you're probably playing at micro stakes right now. in order to make enough money to survive, you'd probably need to play something like 10/20 NL. you'll run into much better competition there. i don't know if you're any good or not. but you'd have to be very good to win consistently at those levels.

Really? deadbabysoup 10 20 nl? thats a bit steep dont you think? Im sure you can make a living playing alot smaller.

[travz21]

Pretty sure people make a living at nl100 even haha. nl2000 you'll find top notch pros making a living.

[DeadBabySoup]

Really? deadbabysoup 10 20 nl? thats a bit steep dont you think? Im sure you can make a living playing alot smaller.

his post implied he was going to start playing live. to make enough to support a wife and 2 kids, i would think 10/20 would be about right. playing online, he could play lower, but in much higher volume. either way, he'd likely have to play much higher than he is now.

[phosphorescence]

personally, i think you should treat poker as a hobby. play in your spare time. build a bankroll. and if your bankroll grows so large that you're making more money in your spare time than at work, then consider quitting your job and becoming a professional poker player. not many players can do it. i wouldn't base your decision on the outcome of a single tournament. you have to show consistent positive results over a long period of time.

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[ProtekYoNuts]

his post implied he was going to start playing live. to make enough to support a wife and 2 kids, i would think 10/20 would be about right. playing online, he could play lower, but in much higher volume. either way, he'd likely have to play much higher than he is now.

2 5 nl where you can buy in for say 500 to 1000, somebody could make a living playing that live game im talking about.

[DeadBabySoup]

2 5 nl where you can buy in for say 500 to 1000, somebody could make a living playing that live game im talking about.

i've always heard about 2 bb / hour is a decent win rate playing live poker. (you're seeing half as many hands live as online. so making half as much for your time.) playing 2/5 nl, that would work out to only $10 per hour. which would work out to $20K / year playing 40 hours a week. he would have to make quite a bit more to support a family. 10/20nl would work out to $80K / year. which isn't a lot if you have a wife and 2 kids to take care of.

[travz21]

2bbs/100 playing 1 table is terrible. Even 2BB/100 per table is terrible. 5BBs/100+ should be the standard at live games.

[C8H10N4O2]

2bbs/100 playing 1 table is terrible. Even 2BB/100 per table is terrible. 5BBs/100+ should be the standard at live games.

Not to mention you can gain a lot more information playing live. I highly doubt 2BB/hour for live is what a "pro" would be making.

[travz21]

Per hour is what I meant. I was a little inebriated at the time of my last post. Nothing a little lasagna and a 5 hour pass out session couldn't fix, though.

Depending what limit you play, I would expect great players to crush live games. 5BB/hour might be a huge underestimate if you're playing with clowns. Once you start playing with a table full of highly skilled players, you'd have to work on your game quite a bit before you could start making that kind of hourly rate, I think.

[DeadBabySoup]

2bbs/100 playing 1 table is terrible. Even 2BB/100 per table is terrible. 5BBs/100+ should be the standard at live games.

key word: live. you're only seeing about 30 hands per hour. so 2 bb / hour works out to approximately 6-7 bb / 100 hands. which is a solid win rate.

[DeadBabySoup]

ps... here's a link that says essentially the same thing. google it and you'll see that what said is considered standard for playing live.

In live poker a good hourly rate was considered to be 1 Big Bet per hour. ( 1 Big Bet = 2 big blinds ). In online poker a player sees many more hands per hour. A full ring online game deals 60-80 hands per hour, compared to 20 in a full ring live game. Additionally online poker players can play more than one table at once. Multi-tabling drastically increases the number of hands you play, and can increase your win rate. Because of this, hourly win rate for online players is usually reported as BB/100, or Big Bets per 100 hands. (occasionally as bb/100, big blinds per 100 hands).

http://www.howtoplaypoker.co.uk/poke...an-you-win.htm

[travz21]

Maybe I'm out of line when I say that 3BB/100 playing at a single live table is pathetic. What good poker player would average 2 bucks an hour playing a live nl100 game? There are mass multitablers out there that have a better BB/100 than that.

[DeadBabySoup]

where are you getting 3 bb/100? 2 bb / hour = 6+ bb / 100. which isn't exactly pathetic.i'm not sure if you realize how much slower live games move.