Qi ir IQ?!

[gerhardt]

I dunno who has the smarts, or the connections on our site.

I want to start a thread for ppl who need help (not money) finding work in our forum.
There has to be threads , sites or jobs out there who does'nt scam ppls with "pay us $x" to get Y.
Lets see if we can find anything worth while. So post here if you need a job, or know anything that might be of interest to someone else..

[liladypokerpro]

Well, if someone lives in the US and has a home phone, there is a company called West At Home which pays you to work at home to handle customer service calls using their software. It's inbound calls only, so no telemarketing is required. They also pay for all the calls that come in because their software reverts the charges to their home base for payment. You get something like 50c per call you take, and you can make your own hours within their available hours of operation. Which means if you only want to work 2 hours, you can. But they will allow you up to 8 hours a day if you want it. I can vouch this is real because I tried it a few years ago and received a check in my first two weeks. You can apply on their website if interested: http://www.westathome.com/

[travz21]

Rakeback pays you $x to get Y. If you become a breakeven player or better, you could make a living solely off of rakeback if you played enough tables at a high enough stake. No job applications, no interviews, no commute to work. Ship it.

[allthatremains]

Rakeback pays you to get Y. If you become a breakeven player or better, you could make a living solely off of rakeback if you played enough tables at a high enough stake. No job applications, no interviews, no commute to work. Ship it.

I think this is a bit misleading.

You must be able to be a breakeven player AFTER paying rake to be able to make a living soley off of rakeback. Even then, to make anything close to a living, you would need to pay $10,000. a month in rake just to get about $3000 back. Not too many players are able to put in this kind of volume or are willing to play at levels that would generate this.

[travz21]

How is it misleading at all? That's what being a breakeven player means lol. It means you're not winning and not losing, even after paying rake. And thanks to Full Tilt's lovely MGR rakeback, I'm only paying rake that's equal to half of my MGR. So I'm actually getting about 50% of the rake I pay back. Now, if you're playing on sites that give you rakeback only from the rake you pay yourself in the pots you're in, this wouldn't be as good for you.

I'm not saying anyone can do it. In fact, I don't think even 5% of poker players could do it. I'm saying it's a viable option for unemployed poker lovers to think about. Someone could make an average living off of rakeback playing nl100 if they could handle the volume of hands they'd need to put in. $3,000 a month is achievable.

[ProtekYoNuts]

How is it misleading at all? That's what being a breakeven player means lol. It means you're not winning and not losing, even after paying rake. And thanks to Full Tilt's lovely MGR rakeback, I'm only paying rake that's equal to half of my MGR. So I'm actually getting about 50% of the rake I pay back. Now, if you're playing on sites that give you rakeback only from the rake you pay yourself in the pots you're in, this wouldn't be as good for you.

I'm not saying anyone can do it. In fact, I don't think even 5% of poker players could do it. I'm saying it's a viable option for unemployed poker lovers to think about. Someone could make an average living off of rakeback playing nl100 if they could handle the volume of hands they'd need to put in. $3,000 a month is achievable.

travz what is MGR how are you getting 50% of your rakeback?

[C8H10N4O2]

travz what is MGR how are you getting 50% of your rakeback?

He's talking about the way Full Tilt calculates rake. It's a shared rake principle, so if you play tighter than most of the people at your table, you won't actually be paying as much rake as everyone else is since you aren't involved in as many pots. Therefore, he can actually see how much he is paying in rake, and compare it to what FTP credits him for paying in rake.

[travz21]

Rake is the total amount of money that was taken out of pots you won.

Monthly Gross Rake (MGR) is the sum of the rake taken out of all pots you were dealt in, divided by the number of players in the hand.

In Pokertracker, they'll have a "Rake" tab, and a "MGR" tab directly to the right of that. By looking at these, you'll be able to discover which type of rakeback method you want to be looking for, if you don't already have one.

If the number in the "Rake" tab is larger than the "MGR" tab, you should find a "contributed" method rakeback deal. If it's the other way around, you should find a "dealt in" method deal.

Since I play something like 12/10 in NL fullring, I'm getting a much larger MGR number than my Rake number because I'm simply playing way less hands compared to how much I'm folding.

If you're a laggy 6max player, I'd imagine a contributed method would be better.

[travz21]

What Dew said. I think I might have "Rake" and the contributed rakeback deal method messed up. Is the "Rake" tab only what you pay out of the pots you win, or what you pay out of the hands you put money into?

[C8H10N4O2]

I'm not sure. I use HEM, and I'm not even sure if these options are available or if they just have the rake calculations based on how the site does them.

[ProtekYoNuts]

Ok guys thanks

[gerhardt]

THIS IS A BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY, NOT A LINK TO BE SPAMMED!!!

When I first started this thread I was surprised how few people could help.
I then searched, and re-searched the web for an answer, and was about to give up...
Well, lets just say..I FOUND the answer :
This is the link to my website, and the best of it all..It only costs you $10 a month to buy you're own. This is not a joke, IT"S FOR REAL..

URLs removed by moderator - Reason: advertising (Unfortunately, anything where money is gained for a source OTHER than Rakeback IS advertising and thus not permitted in the forums.

It's available in most languages, so anyone can go look. YOU ARE NOT PERMITTED TO SPAM THIS MESSAGE. In other words, YOU USE IT TO SIGN UP YOURSELF, THEN INVITE YOU'RE OWN PEOPLE, COMUNITY, OR FRIENDS TO BUY A DOMAIN (WEBSITE) THROUGH YOU'RE OWN LINK!!!

[gerhardt]

Hi , my beloved comunity and favorate site.
Thanx for correcting my mistake lilady, but I would like to ad the following to rakeback management, and request Tony to ask Mollila for me to allow these threads.
My reasons for starting this thread was :

For us as a comunity to help people to get jobs, and as you can clearly see, I did do a lot of homework to find out and research whether the domain posses any threat. I did find a cheap , and ligitamate site, and to prove it I even bought my own website (The erased link was to my website). I am the owner of the website's link you erased, and put in bold red that it's a spam link. I respect you're actions lilady, but I am offended by the fact that you erased MY WEBSITE's LINK and called it spam (spam is unwanted mail from someone you don't know. This was why I marked it clearly). I have been in this comunity for two years now, and you want to tell me everybody, or anybody does'nt know me?! In conclusion..My thread is in the players lounge and is open for any topic , not only rake and poker .
This topic and all the work I did was out of pure love, and was intended for the people in our rakeback comunity who need help, including me.

Sorry , the bold red letters say advertising, and I will respect management's dicision on this matter, because my intentions were not ill intensional.

[tony]

Hey gerhardt,

In liladys explanation why she removed your link she wrote: URLs removed by moderator - Reason: advertising (Unfortunately, anything where money is gained for a source OTHER than Rakeback IS advertising and thus not permitted in the forums. So the reason was advertising not spamming. Nobody thinks that you are a spammer gerhardt, nobody gave you any infractions, your link was removed because our moderators were instructed to remove all spam and advertising links from the threads, all our moderators are doing this pretty well and our forums become really clean, they also do it for free. We understand that you wanted to help others but unfortunately rules are rules and you can not put a link to some other source and say go there it is only $10, sounds like a typical advertising.

[gerhardt]

Thanx Tony.

Sorted. I rest this topic. I was trying to help, but am clearly in the wrong and I appoligise, and I respect you're moderators at all times. My posts are not intended to attack anyone,

[ProtekYoNuts]

Hey Tony,

Those rakeback figures that are displayed in the 15k full tilt rake race promotion, are those gross rake numbers or net rake?

Jason

[travz21]

Gross rake numbers. Unfortunately.