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    I was down 15 buyins at .01/.02 shorthanded PLO in 1k hands. Sick variance.
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    yea it is, my problem in PLO that its usually a set vs nut flush draw or stuff like that, u must have the nuts there and there arent many bluffs there so usually its based on luck...
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    Quote Originally Posted by alw4ysontilt View Post
    yea it is, my problem in PLO that its usually a set vs nut flush draw or stuff like that, u must have the nuts there and there arent many bluffs there so usually its based on luck...
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    Quote Originally Posted by alw4ysontilt View Post
    that was one of the most quickest answers i have ever seen :S i just finished writing mine and ur answer was already there lol.

    tell me something dew, do u know what is the best way to play against fish?, i mean i lose a lot of pots to ppl who just catch 5outer on the turn and then push and its really hard to fold, for ex', i have A 10,
    flop comes 10 9 4, i raise he calls, turn 5, i bet out again , lets say for example rainbow and the guy shuves.
    i call he opens 95, how can i face that?, fish hit so much.

    and on the other side, when i have a big hand i bet too aggersivly because im so afraid to get fished so i run away my opponents, do u have a good tactic to help me?
    I think the answer to your question here is pretty straight forward TBH. If all you have is 1 relatively vulnerable pair, then you shouldn't be calling your opponents shoves!

    In the example above it is pretty clear that you are behind ...In effect you can only beat a bluff. More often than not he has hit 2 pair or a set.

    What would you do if You hit your the board comes 10 high and the guy just open shoves into you on the flop? would you call? If you are willing to commit all your chips with 1 pair, then I am afraid you will be busting on a regular basis.

    Obviously you can't fold TPTK all the time you get some action, but you have to realise that if someone is putting all their money in the pot and all you have is 1 pair, you are really only beating a bluff most of the time.

    Remember, the fact that you can't lay down top pair, also gives your opponents great odds to draw. They know if they hit that they are stacking you...

    Incidentally, how big was your Pre flop raise (or how big is your standard pre flop raise), How much do you bet at the flop? Why when your flop bet was called did you not try to pot control the turn? i.e. check...You may find you are building to big a pot with your 1 pair hands.

    Ideally (blind dependent) you should be raising 2.5 - 4BB and then betting over half the pot on the flop up to 3/4 pot. You should then really check the turn unless your hand improves in order to keep the pot relatively small (assuming you are reasonably deep). You might also want to check call the river as opposed to leading out or make a small value bet if it is checked to you.

    As an alternative to the above, you can check the flop and bet half pot on the turn.

    If at any stage with TPTK your opponent takes the lead or reraises and in particular if his entire stack goes in (unless you are committed due to being fairly short stacked) you should think seriously about folding your hand a good deal of the time.


    Just as a final point A10 is a real crappy hand to play from a lot of positions and doesn't play well if you are deepish stacked. You might also give consideration to not playing the hand until late stages of a MTT or in very late pos...It's a trouble hand that will lose you a lot of chips

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    well thanks for ur comment, my hand was just an example not a real hand that happened, therefore i cant really reply for that msg, its all doing with that hand, i do agree i cant call all my stack with just 1 pair very often ill meet an over pair, i agree i did few times went all in with just top pair on the flop when i had a read on a player and i did was behind.

    i know how big to raise, but fish doesnt really care if bet enough and they will draw, or call with thier 1 pair in order to hit and stack me, i do agree i should become more good at pot control,

    another problem i got is, i usually dont give enough credit to turn raises, thanks for ur comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alw4ysontilt View Post
    well thanks for ur comment, my hand was just an example not a real hand that happened, therefore i cant really reply for that msg, its all doing with that hand, i do agree i cant call all my stack with just 1 pair very often ill meet an over pair, i agree i did few times went all in with just top pair on the flop when i had a read on a player and i did was behind.

    i know how big to raise, but fish doesnt really care if bet enough and they will draw, or call with thier 1 pair in order to hit and stack me, i do agree i should become more good at pot control,

    another problem i got is, i usually dont give enough credit to turn raises, thanks for ur comment.
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    yup, and there are a lot of setup hands on FTP, less on PS, ofc i had a rough time on PS i felt the rough luck on PS, came into a final table 2$ tourny 4000 players, small-mid stack place 7 in chip count,
    i got in the small blind pocket 4 UTG limps everyone folds, i complete, BB check.

    flop comes,
    A 9 4
    i check, bb check, utg goes all in, i call, BB goes all in, i call.
    i open set of fours, UTG shows AK, and ofc... BB shows pocket 9,
    HOW IN HELL IS THAT POSSIBLE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alw4ysontilt View Post
    yup, and there are a lot of setup hands on FTP, less on PS, ofc i had a rough time on PS i felt the rough luck on PS, came into a final table 2$ tourny 4000 players, small-mid stack place 7 in chip count,
    i got in the small blind pocket 4 UTG limps everyone folds, i complete, BB check.

    flop comes,
    A 9 4
    i check, bb check, utg goes all in, i call, BB goes all in, i call.
    i open set of fours, UTG shows AK, and ofc... BB shows pocket 9,
    HOW IN HELL IS THAT POSSIBLE?
    Dude, play more than 5k hands in your life and you'll see that everything is possible in poker unless they are drawing dead.
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    i did just had pocket 5 on the small 5 limpers i complete big min raise i call flop comes 10 9 5 rainbow i check raise, turn comes 2 of spades rainbow board i go all in i get a flat call with KQ, river J, nice 4 outer.
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