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Old 26th May 2008, 07:53 PM
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Right so recently i have been playing mainly cash games. I used to be a tourney player and was/still am up 5 figures (sorry total brag post) but as i play more cash i havent finished in the money for what seems for ever. Something 40 straight without a cash. I won a plo tourney but that only had 30 players so moreof a sng really.

So i suppose my question is for those who play both tourneys and cash at a resanable level (say 20 buck tourneys up and .10/.25) how do you stay fresh at both? I hate multi tabling cash and tourneys at the same time just fry's my brain.
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I like to play both as well, but I think one thing that helps (even just a little bit) is after playing a long time on the cash tables, play a few play money tourneys until you get your strategy back in gear, then head to the real ones when you feel you're back to where you need to be tourney-wise.
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I like to play a healthy mixture of cash games and MTTs. I play NLHE cash games, PLO8 cash games, NLHE MTTs, PLO8 MTTs and NLHE sngs. I feel this mixture keeps my brain fresh most of the time thus avoiding tilt. MTTs are notorious for long streaks where you play well but bubble (remember most of the money is in the top 3 places).

To reduce variance I use satellites to qualify for some of the larger buyin MTTs and try to get lucky....I qualified for the weekly 10k PLO8 MTT on Absolute Poker through a $10 satellite and took down 3rd for $1200 (obv brag ). Hope this helps.

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After reading the forum for about a week here comes my 1st post.

I used to play mostly SnG's (didnt do good at all) and after some reading and thinking it over i moved to cash games. Started with 2 and now on 4 tables (6-handed). With 4 tables there is always some action so when i join a MTT now and then I get bored pretty soon and start to gamble and you know how that goes. So I decided to actually use the toruneys as a "break". I join 1 MTT and watch poker after dark or the heads-up championship or something like that. In other words i don't focus much on the tourney for the 1st hour or so. Using this "strategy" I'm actually almost always in the money.
As for playing few ring game tables and a tourney together - for me thats not an option. Played the horse-freeroll on sat together with FLO-tourney on PS and 2 cash tables. Had a headache for 5h after that and didnt do that well in any of the games.
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Yup, it definetely does affect, and a whole lot. I make fairly good profit from cash games, but don't make it in to the money too often in tournaments (apart from sng's). I just can't seem to shake my cash game strategies in a tournament, and they are two completely different worlds, after all. I've been working on my tournament play, and getting better at it, but nevertheless, I'm still strictly a cash game player.
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Yup, it definetely does affect, and a whole lot. I make fairly good profit from cash games, but don't make it in to the money too often in tournaments (apart from sng's). I just can't seem to shake my cash game strategies in a tournament, and they are two completely different worlds, after all. I've been working on my tournament play, and getting better at it, but nevertheless, I'm still strictly a cash game player.
+1, I am in the same boat, I do play in tourneys sometimes, but my strategy is mostly for cash games now, you have to make some serious adjustments between games to be successful in both.
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what do you guys feel are the main differences in cash game and tourney play?
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I think one big difference between cash and tourney play is in a tournament, you must put your chips into play at some point. You simply can not wait to catch a hand, bet it up, then quit. In a tourney you have to play your entire stack from small to an all in bet or call for the duration of the tournament. Your stack strength dwindles as the blinds increase, something that does not happen at the cash tables with constant blind levels.

Also, lets say you are playing in a 20 dollar single or multi table tourney. For the same 20 bucks at 100XBB (good safe buy in amount, could go 75BB, but no less) you should be buying into a cash table with SB of .10 and BB of .20. At the cash game many calls will arise from the low BB of .20 where as the tourney will get many folds even at the lower leves as players protect their chip stacks and position. In a cash game you rebuy/add at any moment (between hands of course) and your stack can be fresh as ever. I find it easier to fold a tweener hand in a tourney as part of the chip protectionism tourney mentality.

The big upside to the cash game is you can quit when ahead, leave when ever you feel. You can also ride out a cold streak a little longer at the cash game with no risk of the blinds increasing.

I am mostly a tourney (single and multi table) player, but enjoy a good cash game now and then. I find being a tourney player, I can be extremely tight in a cash game and wait for the payoff hands and throw the lessor invested ones away.

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