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Old 20th June 2008, 08:15 AM
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I always find that i need to start making moves in the middle to late stages of a tournament, when it was solid play that got me there in the first place.

Anyone else run into this problem? When the blinds get high I get to exited/nervous.
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I have recently busted out in two satellite tourneys where I probably had around an 80% chance of folding to get in.

All I can can think of is to take all of the time given to make your decision, when your tourney life is on the line. I didn't.
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Old 20th June 2008, 02:03 PM
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No need to get nervous or excited when the blinds are climbing. Once you are down to 8-12 times BB there is only one play, shove. When you are sitting in the 20-30 BB spot, a hand played and lost usually puts you into the shove position. On the other hand a win here and you have some playing room. You have to play hands to win and there will always be key situations in big tourneys. If your style got you to the spot, keep it up, there is wiggle room until you get down to the short stack, then no worries, shove it and either double up or on to the next game.

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No need to get nervous or excited when the blinds are climbing. Once you are down to 8-12 times BB there is only one play, shove. When you are sitting in the 20-30 BB spot, a hand played and lost usually puts you into the shove position. On the other hand a win here and you have some playing room. You have to play hands to win and there will always be key situations in big tourneys. If your style got you to the spot, keep it up, there is wiggle room until you get down to the short stack, then no worries, shove it and either double up or on to the next game.

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Indeed. Read about Harrinton's 'M'-value. M is your stack against the total of blinds and antes, so if the bb is 600, sb is 300, the total is 900. If your stack size is 1800, your M is 2.

If your M drops below 5, you should shove all-in with any hand in an uncontested pot.

Harrington divides M-values in different zones, and for each zone, there is a different strategy. Read Harrington on Holdem :-)
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I always find that i need to start making moves in the middle to late stages of a tournament, when it was solid play that got me there in the first place.

Anyone else run into this problem? When the blinds get high I get to exited/nervous.

Solid play gets you there but you honestly need to task some chances when your on your way there BECAUSE, solid people get blinded out really quickly when the blinds make everyone's stack size under M of 10.

I'll give you a good example.

Late stage of a tourney yesterday, I established myself as a very aggressive who showed down good cards, when I would enter a pot, i bet hard and fast. the person to my right was very weak tight, if he limped, he didn't have crap. Soo every BB that came around, if everyone folded to him, he would limp and I'd move him on all in right there, instantly. NEVER got called. I kept my stack going up to because I found someone at the table I can exploit. Needless to say, he finally stood up to me with 11 people left, but it was a bad time for him, I had pkt As. He showed AK and lost. It was all a chance that he never called me when I DID NOT have a hand but the risk .v. reward was too small to warrant NOT doing it. Now had he been very aggressive, there is NO way I could have pulled that off and I might not have made the final table.
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