What a suckout in the Daily Dollar

[gamer4life27]

So 8,459 people entered this tourney. I entered it for 50 FTP's in a satellite SnG. I got entry literally 1 minute before the tourney ended for late registration. I made a SUPER great run in this tourney, making great reads, getting lucky, but my last hand I have to say was a joke. He insta called in this situation:

Full Tilt Poker Game #13229102938: Daily Dollar (97111489), Table 471 - 10000/20000 Ante 2500 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:24:51 ET - 2009/07/06
Seat 1: Sanremo1959 (903,156)
Seat 2: gamer4life27 (676,484)
Seat 3: cujo13 (701,512)
Seat 4: cdffirefighters (244,020)
Seat 5: bodyguard863 (1,847,584)
Seat 6: JustTheTipPlz (311,025)
Seat 7: Blakjaks (1,341,822)
Seat 8: pliskey (550,112)
Seat 9: DonbaeLuck (561,389)
Sanremo1959 antes 2,500
gamer4life27 antes 2,500
cujo13 antes 2,500
cdffirefighters antes 2,500
bodyguard863 antes 2,500
JustTheTipPlz antes 2,500
Blakjaks antes 2,500
pliskey antes 2,500
DonbaeLuck antes 2,500
cujo13 posts the small blind of 10,000
cdffirefighters posts the big blind of 20,000
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gamer4life27 [Kc Ks]
bodyguard863 raises to 60,000
JustTheTipPlz folds
Blakjaks folds
pliskey folds
DonbaeLuck folds
Sanremo1959 folds
gamer4life27 raises to 160,000
cujo13 folds
cdffirefighters folds
bodyguard863 calls 100,000
*** FLOP *** [7c 9d 4h]
bodyguard863 bets 220,000
gamer4life27 raises to 513,984, and is all in
bodyguard863 calls 293,984 <--- He insta calls here and later stated he thought he had me beat with my under pair
gamer4life27 shows [Kc Ks]
bodyguard863 shows [Qc 9c]
*** TURN *** [7c 9d 4h] [Qh]
*** RIVER *** [7c 9d 4h Qh] [Ac]
gamer4life27 shows a pair of Kings
gamer4life27: omfg
bodyguard863 shows two pair, Queens and Nines
bodyguard863 wins the pot (1,400,468) with two pair, Queens and Nines
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,400,468 | Rake 0
Board: [7c 9d 4h Qh Ac]
Seat 1: Sanremo1959 folded before the Flop
Seat 2: gamer4life27 (button) showed [Kc Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 3: cujo13 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: cdffirefighters (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: bodyguard863 showed [Qc 9c] and won (1,400,468) with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 6: JustTheTipPlz folded before the Flop
Seat 7: Blakjaks folded before the Flop
Seat 8: pliskey folded before the Flop
Seat 9: DonbaeLuck folded before the Flop

45 people were left when this happened and I took home $20. So not a bad finish, but I should have finished WAY better.

If anyone would like, I can show you my tourney history for this whole tourney if you would like to see how I played, give me some advice, or even if you want to see how I play.

Edit: It's not that it was a bad beat or anything, but if you were to put any other player in this situation to raise UTG with that hand, to call a re-raise from someone on the button, and to insta call with so many hands beating you? Especially this late in the tourney.

[uofmichrn]

my only reply would be to remeber that you are playing the daily "dollar", some people at certain levels cannot laydown top pair regardless of kicker or situation. My guess is he called your reraise for 2 reasons one because his cards were suited (again remember level you are playing) and secondly your reraise was in my opinion to small and gave him the odds to do so.

[frecklers]

Originally Posted by uofmichrn my only reply would be to remeber that you are playing the daily "dollar", some people at certain levels cannot laydown top pair regardless of kicker or situation. My guess is he called your reraise for 2 reasons one because his cards were suited (again remember level you are playing) and secondly your reraise was in my opinion to small and gave him the odds to do so.

I think there is always a fine line between re-raising too little and attempting to assure a call from your opponent.

I agree that the reraise was probably on the low side although I am guilty of doing this myself with AA & KK just to try and make sure I get the call. He certainly doesn't have odds to call with Q9 though? I am not sure he even has implied odds in reality.

Maybe you could explain to me where the odds come from?

[travz21]

The pot was rougly 270k and he had to call 100k more. Regardless, he should know he's going to miss the flop a lot of the time and you're going to fire a cbet anyways. Plus, you would only have about 500k left behind for him to win, it's not like you were deepstacked. And does he really think you're making a small raise there with AK or 88-JJ hand without pushing instead? It's clearly a "call me I have AA or KK" bet. Obv people don't think like that before they suckout on you. He did have to insta call that flop though after he bet out and you pushed, even if he thought he was behind (which he was). He had a bad explanation for it though hahaha. Going deep and getting beated like that sucks.

[phaul]

Preflop is OK, although it does scream a massive hand. You either have to make it this much or shove, in the daily dollar 160,000 seems fine although in a higher stakes tourney I would shove.

I guess at least he stacked off here, preflop followed by folding flop would be completely illogical, even though c/r is loads better than b/c. But whatever, it's all awful. Don't worry about it, this is how you profit.

[phaul]

Lol just scoped him. He finished 3rd for $599 to dip his losses back below $2000

[gamer4life27]

Originally Posted by phaul Lol just scoped him. He finished 3rd for $599 to dip his losses back below $2000

NOO!!! *tear* Thanks for sharing that. Just shows that donks really can make it far off of luck. Lol.

But as for everyone else, here was my logic throughout the hand:

I just sat down about 14 hands ago. The chip leader has either raised or folded each of his hands in any position. He has raised twice UTG (including this time) to 3x BB and the whole table has been playing fairly tight.

I was playing position, and c-betting my few hands that I played and have won the 2 or so hands that I played at this table. I see KK on the button and expect to raise on the button with everyone folding to me and I either take down the blinds and ante's, or get a re-raise from the blinds and get involved in a big pot because they are thinking I am making a positional raise.

His raise to 3x BB at 10k/20k limits was pretty standard for all the tables. I don't expect him to raise without pocket pair, AK, AQ, AJ, and maybe KQ suited. Against all but one of these hands (AA), I have him dominated. So given this, I re-raise 100k more on top of his 60k because there has been no re-raising as of yet and I feel that 100k (even for the chip leader) is a lot to call off just to see a flop. So it's either a fold or shove situation and I would gladly take any of those.

Now that he calls, I think he has the same range of hands pre flop, but narrow them down to a few select pocket pairs and overs. Maybe some suited connectors, but nothing that could beat me badly.

His lead out bet was pretty standard in my opinion from the chip leader. He bets that much to insure that if I hit it, I shove and if I miss it, I fold. And with that flop, I am going to miss it most of the time. But he didn't figure that my re-raise was actually a strong raise and not a AK, AQ, or any other sort of hand like that. Because with those hands, his raise UTG, against chip leader, and these blinds with so little players left, I will just call to see a flop in position.

I shove thinking he will fold because he didn't hit any of that since he did raise UTG. But to my surprise, he INSTA calls. As soon as he does this, I say to myself: "Ugghh... Aces for the 3rd time in this tournament. Guess it just wasn't my night." But yet again, to my surprise, he turns over Q 9 suited!

Now, given it is suited, he didn't have ANY right to raise UTG. My re-raise for so much of my stack to a UTG raiser into the chip leader should have told him I want to play a big pot because I have a monster. If I raised any more, I might as well have shoved, but I wanted a double up through the chip leader if he really is a donk. I got what I wished for, but it backfired on me BADLY. So like I said, it's not like it was a bad beat or anything, but I would have rather taken the pot down pre flop than anything because that was a lot of chips at this stage and I could keep doing that all the way to the final table.